FFG 054/054A Thread

[tphuang]

Could you provide the source of this report? I haven't seen/heard of it, but it seems unlikely to me. If the 054A has entered batch production with Russian sensors, I don't think they're going to scrap the design and put all new APAR radar suite on it this soon.

They are constantly upgrading it I guess?
well, take a look at the recent tests they are doing on 891. Note, the first 3 pictures should be showing the new radar that they are testing with the FCRs and the last 2 are the new mast they are putting on it.

So, there are some interesting question we have on these photos:
1. Are they putting Sea Eagle on the aft-mast? It will be only logical to test Sea Eagle with the new radar at the same time.
2. If they are putting the new radar on the bridge, does that mean it will also be going on the bridge on the 054A successors? Not sure if they will have space to fit that. If they are, then we are basically going to have SR-64, Sea Eagle, the new radar + FCRs, definitely a lot of radars. Questions like the cost, radar interference, weight, RCS come in. But of course, you get redunduncy, improved performance against different threats for sure.
3. What is exactly in the new radar? Are we looking at a double faced APAR like Sampson or a single faced radar like EMPAR? What rotating system are they using and how good is its 360 degree coverage?

 

[challenge]

Could you provide the source of this report? I haven't seen/heard of it, but it seems unlikely to me. If the 054A has entered batch production with Russian sensors, I don't think they're going to scrap the design and put all new APAR radar suite on it this soon.

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last week,the messaage was brief.claiming the next batch will carry PAR similiar to 171.according to him the radar will (maybe) carry scale down version 171 radar.

 

[challenge]

there are too many rumor these day,but surely PLAN also pay attention to trend toward AESA,and inherit limitation of conventional rotating mechanical antenna such sea eagle,giving the new emerging threat such as stealth missile and aircraft,naval AESA was must.

 

[tphuang]

there are some new pictures for 054A coming out of HP 2 days ago, but they looked pretty similar to these ones, so I will just post this. Not much has changed to be honest.

 

[tphuang]

Similar to the 071 thread, there are a billion photos taken from HD, so I'm just going to post a selection of them

 

[joshuatree]

I know ships accrue wear and tear but that closeup pic of the hangar area is horrendous. The side looks majorly scratched up and the ship has yet to go into service.

 

[zyun8288]

I know ships accrue wear and tear but that closeup pic of the hangar area is horrendous. The side looks majorly scratched up and the ship has yet to go into service.

:coffee: When you are eating your steak in a resturant, you'd better try not to figure out how your steak was cut out

 

[joshuatree]

:coffee: When you are eating your steak in a resturant, you'd better try not to figure out how your steak was cut out

And how does that justify damage to a ship that has yet to be delivered to the final customer? If that's how you see things, I've got a "brand new" car to sell to you.

 

[Totoro]

actually, those black marks on the side don't look like deep scratches at all, at least to me. I'd say they're all just smeared off rubber from the tyres. Nothing that can't be cleaned in a day's work.

 

[zyun8288]

And how does that justify damage to a ship that has yet to be delivered to the final customer? If that's how you see things, I've got a "brand new" car to sell to you.

If you find enough photoes of how ships are built at ALL stages, you will not be so surprised. Just search some old photoes of 052C and 052B. Quite a few people asked the same question during that time.

Like all products, before its final delivery, it will be polished up. Don't worry, even the first ship of LCS will be delivered like a goddess.