FFG 054/054A Thread
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Those on the Chinese language BBS are claiming that the green objects are the fire control radars for the SA-N-12 missiles. The same individuals claim that a Top Plate search radar will be installed on the foremast, as depicted in the model here.
It remains to be seen where there the 054A has the VLS or the conventional launcher used on the 052B.
Those on the Chinese language BBS are claiming that the green objects are the fire control radars for the SA-N-12 missiles. The same individuals claim that a Top Plate search radar will be installed on the foremast, as depicted in the model here.
It remains to be seen where there the 054A has the VLS or the conventional launcher used on the 052B.
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take a look at all the 052B, 956 and 054A and compare that with the model picture of 054A and the currently built picture. You would notice a difference where the SAM is located.guitarjeff said:
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From chinese forums, the radar is said to be a domestic one, although looks like top plate but it's quite different.
VLS is said to be HQ16, which has Russian assistance, but it's not SA-N-12.
We'll need to have a closer look at the radar to see the details. As of the VLS missile, that's hard to tell.
From chinese forums, the radar is said to be a domestic one, although looks like top plate but it's quite different.
VLS is said to be HQ16, which has Russian assistance, but it's not SA-N-12.
We'll need to have a closer look at the radar to see the details. As of the VLS missile, that's hard to tell.
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Heck radar looks joust like Top Plate and I will buy that is produced in China (copy/licensed production), even that it is modernized but I doubt that is completely different…
Now what interests me is HQ16. Is it based on SA-N-12, license production of SA-N-12 or are those who are saying that is basically navalized TOR right?
Heck radar looks joust like Top Plate and I will buy that is produced in China (copy/licensed production), even that it is modernized but I doubt that is completely different…
Now what interests me is HQ16. Is it based on SA-N-12, license production of SA-N-12 or are those who are saying that is basically navalized TOR right?
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There has been discussions about the radar for a while. Basically it's said: Top plate is only vertically electronic scan (horiz mech scan) radar, whereas the new radar is a true phase array radar. That's why I want to see a much closer photo to check that.
As of HQ16, it definitely has russian assistance, but it's also a brand new project from ground up, not based on any russian missiles. In fact russians are not the only foreign help received. This HQ16 in fact has been rumored for a long time and it's the main reason why the first 2 054 ships dissapointed many people. In other words, if after at least 2 -3 years of delay, the new 054A still can't use it, that would be a major dissappointment again.
Funny thing is, some people are even very sensitive about the name. It's HQ16, not HHQ16 (like HHQ9), because it's a brand new project aimed for PLAN from the beginning. Whereas HHQ9 is derived from HQ9 which is designed for PLAAF first.
There has been discussions about the radar for a while. Basically it's said: Top plate is only vertically electronic scan (horiz mech scan) radar, whereas the new radar is a true phase array radar. That's why I want to see a much closer photo to check that.
As of HQ16, it definitely has russian assistance, but it's also a brand new project from ground up, not based on any russian missiles. In fact russians are not the only foreign help received. This HQ16 in fact has been rumored for a long time and it's the main reason why the first 2 054 ships dissapointed many people. In other words, if after at least 2 -3 years of delay, the new 054A still can't use it, that would be a major dissappointment again.
Funny thing is, some people are even very sensitive about the name. It's HQ16, not HHQ16 (like HHQ9), because it's a brand new project aimed for PLAN from the beginning. Whereas HHQ9 is derived from HQ9 which is designed for PLAAF first.
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Don’t get me wrong but after hearing so many speculations on bouth Top Plate and Hq-16 I joust have some doubts…
If I see something that looks like Top Plate I will tend to believe that it is Top Plate rather then trusting some rumors. If at some later point I will be proven wrong I won’t mind to admit that I was wrong…
Don’t get me wrong but after hearing so many speculations on bouth Top Plate and Hq-16 I joust have some doubts…
If I see something that looks like Top Plate I will tend to believe that it is Top Plate rather then trusting some rumors. If at some later point I will be proven wrong I won’t mind to admit that I was wrong…
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