FC-1 or J-10 vs questions

sumdud

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In my book I have Ecuador's air force having FC-1 and later J-10s and Peru's air force has F-16A/B and Kfir C-7/10s

Because the Kfirs are C-10 while F-16s are of the older versions, I think it is the F-16s, since they can't use BVR missiles, that will be the bombers, not the Kfirs.
I have to ask, how will a radar determine whether the enemy is a fighter or a bomber?
If I am right, Mirage Deltas aren't very agile, and since Kfirs came from Mirages, can we assume that these planes, after launching their Derbys, will become very vunlerable as it will be hard for them to dodge missiles?
I am thinking, if the Ecuadorians are doing it smart(hope this works), they will send in their J-10s first to lure off the Kfirs and kill them in a dogfight, then have their FC-1s take down the loaded F-16s?
 

nonpilot

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Both type aircraft would be using the EL-2032 radar weapons system Derbys and Python 5, from what I read I think the Derby can lock on or its harder to beat range is around 25 miles and the Python V is from 8 to 15 little less. A lot depends on height/speed/rear shot/etc. The F-16s would be used for both but fighters mainly since the F-16s even the early models can cut and turn way better then a Kfir can. The Kfir does use the J-79 engine which has a lot of power and assume more then the French engine correct me if I'm wrong. The Ecuadorian FC-1 or J-10s should be able to launch first with there PL-12s and put the Peruvian F-16s on the defensive. Not being a pilot I;m sure the Falcon pilots would know this and would try to use there speed and and better turning to setup a Python V shot a deadly missile. Knowing your enemy there weak points and so on is very important its like a game of chess but at 500 to 800 knots, with split seond choices to make. Figter pilots have the hardest job in the world with all the suff they have to learn and maintain.
I'm changing the aircraft around for both Ecuador and Peru to work in different things. I really want to work in both FC-1, J-10, and J-11s, into the action and like all three aircraft. Just wish they were out already and we knew more about them. All three models are huge steps in the right path and much better in so many ways compared to the early designs.

I have to ask, how will a radar determine whether the enemy is a fighter or a bomber?
I don't know a lot about radar's but I'll give it a crack. I know there are different modes on a radar: air to air, air to ground, air to seas, etc. For the radar to see a type of target I think the radar and weapons systems need certain modes for different type targets. I know aircraft like Su-24/F-111, and many more have terrain following radar for low flying, most aircraft can't do this. I know there's a lot more to this like what's the difference between the radar in a F-15C and a F-15E, I guess a safe way to look at it is the radar is geared toward what the aircraft will be most used for. Hope it helps.

Thanks everybody, nonpilot


sumdud said:
Because the Kfirs are C-10 while F-16s are of the older versions, I think it is the F-16s, since they can't use BVR missiles, that will be the bombers, not the Kfirs.
I have to ask, how will a radar determine whether the enemy is a fighter or a bomber?
If I am right, Mirage Deltas aren't very agile, and since Kfirs came from Mirages, can we assume that these planes, after launching their Derbys, will become very vunlerable as it will be hard for them to dodge missiles?
I am thinking, if the Ecuadorians are doing it smart(hope this works), they will send in their J-10s first to lure off the Kfirs and kill them in a dogfight, then have their FC-1s take down the loaded F-16s?
 
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