Falklands War, 1982, Thread

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FORBIN

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As far as I can tell, during the war The Sea Harriers only dropped 1000lb bombs, as that was the only size carried aboard the task force. A sensible move, as 500lb bombs take up almost as much space aboard ship but pack less of a punch. Also when the initial attacks were launched, all the Sea Harriers were armed as in the above photo with three bombs and two drop tanks (the latter were virtually permanent fixtures throughout the Sea Harrier's life, range always being an issue) so only three hardpoints were generally available for stores. After the first attack the SHARs returned to their carriers and were quickly rearmed with Sidewinders ready to meet the expected Argentine response. Many missions flown after that had a mixed armament, with two sidewinders for CAP duties and a single 1000lb'er on the centreline pylon, to drop on Argentine positions before proceeding to the CAP station.

Interesting again :) i have see after max 1000 lbs bombs same for Argentinians 500 or 1000 lbs max.

An interesting things also during operations CAPs of 4 Sea Harrriers for cover CVBG and also 4 for Amphibious TF, IIRC many links not easy hehe can fly 1 h 30.

I try catch more infos for Argentinians more difficult with Spanish... but really an interesting War and i will detailed more the 2 main phases, naval battle around Falklands 01 - 05/05 and San Carlos Landing mainly provide if i can things little known.
 

Obi Wan Russell

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Interesting again :) i have see after max 1000 lbs bombs same for Argentinians 500 or 1000 lbs max.

An interesting things also during operations CAPs of 4 Sea Harrriers for cover CVBG and also 4 for Amphibious TF, IIRC many links not easy hehe can fly 1 h 30.

I try catch more infos for Argentinians more difficult with Spanish... but really an interesting War and i will detailed more the 2 main phases, naval battle around Falklands 01 - 05/05 and San Carlos Landing mainly provide if i can things little known.
The Argentine 1000lb bombs were the same as ours, because they bought them from us! Cheeky sods were dropping our bombs on us!

The Sea harrier CAP was strained at times because of the need to keep the carriers out of range of the Argentine aircraft, meaning the SHARs had long transit times to the CAP station and reduced time on-station, sometimes as little as ten minutes. Being able to refuel at 'Syds Strip at San Carlos Bay helped a lot but wasn't available until the last stages of the war. Two SHAR's on CAP did refuel on the LPDs Fearless and Intrepid at least once to extend their patrol time. Taking off vertically reduced the payload but as they were only carrying a couple of Sidewinders and drop tanks each, the exercise was worthwhile. When launching from Syd's strip, rolling short takeoffs could be employed.01c27888ce1be98caf46c958ffbd6d2d.jpg 532907_524226230948904_1006099566_n.jpg Above: Sea Harrier taxiing on Syd's Strip and Sea harrier landing on HMS Intrepid in San Carlos Water.
 

b787

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"I'm going down one"

At the age of 19, Benitez - a native of Basavilbaso, a town in the south of Entre Ríos, with about 5,000 inhabitants - was the youngest of the crew.

He had trained himself as a machine gun pointer, according to the technical name, and showed great enthusiasm about the possibility of taking action. He was like the owner of the weapon. I cleaned it every day. He was convinced he was going to knock down a Sea King helicopter, remember who his teammates were. "I'm going down one," he said.

But it was not a helicopter that was in the sights, but something much more powerful: the Sea Harrier ZA 192, of the carrier Hermes, piloted by the corvette Captain Thomas Batt, approaching by stern.

Batt did not give the willing entrerriano time. Located almost above the coast guard, 18 meters above the sea, he fired his 30mm guns and caught Benitez in the chest.

Despite not having instruction as a machine gun, Ibanez, in an attitude that defines as "instinctive and mixed with all the anger", pushed his partner away and took his place. It is very graphic in describing the scene: "I fired a curtain of fire and the plane swallowed it." Immediately ("I could hardly believe it"), he saw that the Harrier caught fire and fell into the sea, without the pilot having been able to eject himself due to his fluttering flight.

The English gave another version: that Batt had made a fatal maneuver when trying to take track in the Hermes. "They did not want to spread the embarrassment of announcing that a $ 80 million machine had been destroyed by the machine gun of a motorboat," says Olmedo. "When I was in England, I visited the cenotaph of his dead in action and saw the plaque that said that. Later, in dialogue with an English officer, I said," You know it was not like that. "" Of course. We could not tell the truth, "was the reply, and after colliding with the enemy's aircraft, the danger of sinking GC 83 increased minute by minute, and the only two rafts were unusable, so to save the crew, Olmedo ordered the There was a note of the casualties: one dead (Benítez) and three wounded: Baccaro, González and Bengoechea.

Baccaro found 72 chips. They could not get more than 11, so there are still 61 between the neck, skull, back, hip, arms and thighs. "They only bother me if there is a lot of humidity," he says. And, smiling, he adds: "They also make a lot of noise when I go through a metal detector, like in airports."


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Obi Wan Russell

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I think I can remember reading a figure of £3-5million in 1980 prices, so $5-8million. Invincible herself cost £175million in 1980. She was 'on offer' to Australia for £150million in 1982. Hermes was sold to India for £60million in 1986. an F-35A is expected to cost $85million at 2017 prices so the same price for a Sea Harrier in 1982? Gross exaggeration.
 

TerraN_EmpirE

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I think I can remember reading a figure of £3-5million in 1980 prices, so $5-8million. Invincible herself cost £175million in 1980. She was 'on offer' to Australia for £150million in 1982. Hermes was sold to India for £60million in 1986. an F-35A is expected to cost $85million at 2017 prices so the same price for a Sea Harrier in 1982? Gross exaggeration.
Only way that price makes any sense is if it's in Argentine Pesos.
Even the Mcdonnell Douglas AV8B ( basis for the Harrier GR5) only cost 30Million in 1996 Dollars when brand new. And those were far more advanced and not even in existence in 1982.
 

Obi Wan Russell

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Only way that price makes any sense is if it's in Argentine Pesos.
Even the Mcdonnell Douglas AV8B ( basis for the Harrier GR5) only cost 30Million in 1996 Dollars when brand new. And those were far more advanced and not even in existence in 1982.
Well the two YAV-8B prototypes were flying back then, but they were converted from first generation AV-8As (basically Harrier GR1s), the first flew in 1978 and the second in 79, and the first four development aircraft flew in 1981. They were a long way from entering frontline service though, the first frontline USMC sqn VMA-331 standing up in 1985.YAV-8B_Harrier_testing_a_ski_jump[1].jpg
 

TerraN_EmpirE

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Exactly Those were flight demonstrators and Preproduction prototypes, far from the production versions. but yeah overall That number is way off.
I think B787 did not bother to translate the article and just used google translate. Author of the Article is sloppy and writes "80 millones de dólares" so google translate gives a literal translation.
Generally a Peso is .10 of an American dollar. So 8 Million Dollars becomes 80 million Peso.
 
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