Falklands War, 1982, Thread

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FORBIN

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But we can " bounce " :) on it for talking about Exocet very efficient and very dangerous for RN coz it is one of the first sea skimming anti-ships missiles, altitude max 20 m put in service mid 1970's with Harpoon Gabriel also Soviet missiles some supersonic SS-N-12/19 but no sea skimming the first is SS-N-22 in 1984.

Argentinians have
5 Super Etendard ( on 14 ordered ) a flight with 5 AM-39
MM-38 : 4 on the 2 Type 42 and 4 Summer/Fletcher modernised i don' t think much reloads or so few by ex have only 60 Sea Dart for the 2 Type 42.

2 AM-39 fired vs Sheffield in radar picket around the CBG
2 vs Atlantic Conveyor initialy for Alacrity/Amazon but Deviated by chaff and missiles hit the more big target... !!! an precious ships with initialy 11 helos and 14 Sea Harrier/Harrier ! fortunately much have left before Attack.
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One Attack by MM-38 retired from a DD transported by C-130 up to Falklands and fired from a costal launcher improvised hit DDG Glamorgan.
 
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b787

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one of the proof Exocet was a really good missile and the Pilots of the Fuerza Aerea Argentina were well trained

Before the attack
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while not officially an aircraft carrier, it was in reality one, albeit a very limited one

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one of the proof Exocet was a really good missile and the Pilots of the Fuerza Aerea Argentina were well trained

Before the attack
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while not officially an aircraft carrier, it was in reality one, albeit a very limited one

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Except it wasn't the Argentine Air Force that attacked the Atlantic Conveyer, it was by Super Etendards of the Argentine Naval Air Arm's 2nd Naval Attack Squadron. Atlantic Conveyor could at best be rated as an Auxiliary Aircraft Transport, as she only had a helipad forward (and a second aft of the superstructure not accessible by the aircraft stored forward) and no maintenance facilities or capacity to refuel and rearm aircraft. Her sister Atlantic Causeway received a more comprehensive conversion, being fitted with a makeshift helicopter hangar forward and the capacity to maintain and operate 4 Sea Kings for ASW. The MVs Astronomer and Contender Bezant received similar modifications before they sailed (delayin their arrival in the war zone), and these ships COULD be rated as Auxiliary Helicopter Carriers, but still fell short of the full 'Arapaho' concept as they had no runway or ski jump, nor did they have any defensive armament.Atlantic-Causeway-02.jpg MV Astronomer.jpg bezant-600x376.jpg MV Astronomer was chartered postwar and converted as a test ship for the Arapaho concept using pre-prepared containers built in the US; the ship was commissioned as RFA Reliant for several yeas but then returned to mercantile service. Contender Bezant was purchased outright at this time and received a far more comprehensive refit to becom a Helicopter Carrier, RFA Argus, and is still in service today.RFA Argus A135 04.jpg
 

b787

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Atlantic Conveyor could at best be rated as an Auxiliary Aircraft Transport, as she only had a helipad forward (and a second aft of the superstructure not accessible by the aircraft stored forward) and no maintenance facilities or capacity to refuel and rearm aircraft.
Harrier taking off from Atlantic conveyor
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Harriers on the deck of Atlantic conveyor
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uhmmm ....not an aircraft carrier......but still harrier were landing and taking off from her deck with hardpoints and stores on them, but not an aircraft carrier

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TerraN_EmpirE

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Also the Damage to the Atlantic Conveyor was by 2 missiles not one, And I read that the missiles were not even supposed to attack the Atlantic Conveyor but that the Pilots were aiming for a Frigate.
In the end this really doesn't help the case of the Invincible "Kill".
 

b787

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Also the Damage to the Atlantic Conveyor was by 2 missiles not one, And I read that the missiles were not even supposed to attack the Atlantic Conveyor but that the Pilots were aiming for a Frigate.
In the end this really doesn't help the case of the Invincible "Kill".
they destroyed a Ship that carrier helos and Harriers, had the capability to use its Harrier pad, since Harriers can take off vertically and land in the same way on 28 May 1982, on 30th May 1982 they attack the HMS Invincible, in 2012 almost 30 years after the Prince Andrew, Lord of York admits the carrier was under attack on May 30th 1982, of course there is no reason for concealment bad argies, conveyor not a carrier, carrier means ability to carry, aircraft carrier ship that carries aircraft, uhmmmm..... not a carrier, bad Argies they are bad boys the same way Sir Francis drake was given a medal for the lost in San Juan de Ulua


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TerraN_EmpirE

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.... the Attack on the Conveyor was real It happened B747. There are pictures and admissions of that.
The Attack on the Invincible did not happen. The Quotes from the Prince are out of context, Questionable due to age and and he never says when the events he describes where's supposed to have happened.
 

b787

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.... the Attack on the Conveyor was real It happened B747. There are pictures and admissions of that.
The Attack on the Invincible did not happen. The Quotes from the Prince are out of context, Questionable due to age and and he never says when the events he describes where's supposed to have happened.
wow now you became his doctor, you know the health of Prince Andrew! yes terrian, the pilots and prince are sick suffer mental dillusion, i believe you yeah, yeah conveyor not a carrier, Argie pilots drunk of tea Mate, Prince Andrew Crazy, British never lie, yeah no reason for concealment
 

TerraN_EmpirE

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I posted before how eyewitness testimony can be faulty. And again I red your link he never dates it and it's without context.
 

b787

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I posted before how eyewitness testimony can be faulty. And again I red your link he never dates it and it's without context.
Prince says he was under attack aboard the HMS Invincible, the Carriers were always far away from the Islands, Argentina did only one attack on 30th May 1982, use logic, there is no need to argue with you, you have faith in your conviction, i believe the Prince Andrew a Royal, and a British pilot who was aboard the HMS invencible, I believe the Argentine Pilots Issac and Ureta, two sources agree on the attack, you are just in denial
 
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