Yep, basically the nuclear warfare equivalent of DRM. American nukes are only happy when they're bolted to American platforms. Gelgoog is right with what he says though, there's no technical reason why a eurofighter can't carry nuclear bomb. It's 100% a deliberate American restriction. Eurofighters or anything else not from the US MIC are not playing on an even playing field when it comes to winning contracts because of this.
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depolying a nuclear weapon isn’t as simple as a gravity bomb. This isn’t the 1950s when all you needed was a fuse and a bomber.
the package may be in a JDAM but the war head is specifically designed not to go off unless the codes match. The PAL system is American, the Warhead is American. To get it into a fighter means integration of the system under American control. Farther it then has to be certified for it. As just bolting weapons Willy nilly under the hard points isn’t going to work.
Given how those systems have performed in Syria and Ukraine… I think F35 stands a very good chance.
F-35 Joint Strike Fighter News, Videos and pics Thread
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The Russians shot down a Su-27 in Ukraine with S-400 some 150km away from the launch site.
The Russian OTH radar network can snoop targets all the way into France. Let alone Germany.
There will be ground clutter if you fly close to the ground. Which means aircraft on low level flights might have more of a chance.
The idea a high flying stealth aircraft will be able to get through though is a bit optimistic to say the least.
Something like the B-2 or B-21 might be more capable of this. But something like the F-35 I kind of doubt it.
The best approach is to use the same tactic the Russians used in this conflict. To strike their IADS with long range cruise missiles. Preferably stealthy ones. The US has the JASSM-ER. The Germans have the KEPD 350.
The idea will you will be dropping nuclear gravity bombs with JDAM on top of Russian troops is uh... doubtful.
The Russian OTH radar network can snoop targets all the way into France. Let alone Germany.
There will be ground clutter if you fly close to the ground. Which means aircraft on low level flights might have more of a chance.
The idea a high flying stealth aircraft will be able to get through though is a bit optimistic to say the least.
Something like the B-2 or B-21 might be more capable of this. But something like the F-35 I kind of doubt it.
The best approach is to use the same tactic the Russians used in this conflict. To strike their IADS with long range cruise missiles. Preferably stealthy ones. The US has the JASSM-ER. The Germans have the KEPD 350.
The idea will you will be dropping nuclear gravity bombs with JDAM on top of Russian troops is uh... doubtful.
TerraN_EmpirE
Tyrant King
Technically Neither Germany nor Belgium nor Turkey have Nuclear arms. The warheads are American, in American controlled facilities. So the technical issue is getting the European MIC to pay for the American certification to carry it.
Its about control yes but consider in 1991 when the USSR fell apart Ukraine, Yes that Ukraine. Found itself with 1,900 Warheads, 176 ICBMs and about 33 Tu160 Blackjack Nuclear bombers. The weapon were however worthless due to lack of codes.
Its about control yes but consider in 1991 when the USSR fell apart Ukraine, Yes that Ukraine. Found itself with 1,900 Warheads, 176 ICBMs and about 33 Tu160 Blackjack Nuclear bombers. The weapon were however worthless due to lack of codes.
Of course ignoring that SU27 lacks any low observable technology, ignoring that not only is F35 low observable but includes fully integrated Electronic warfare systems including both jamming and warning. Farther ignoring that the B61 can be carried internally.
"#BREAKING Canada to buy 88 F-35 fighter jets from Lockheed Martin: minister"
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More money for Lockheed Martin. Figures. Canada wouldn't buy anything but a US aircraft. And they have issues with Boeing after they basically killed Bombardier. It would be political suicide to buy a Boeing plane. But a single engine is a poor choice for Canada. They should have bought the Rafale or something like that.
More money for Lockheed Martin. Figures. Canada wouldn't buy anything but a US aircraft. And they have issues with Boeing after they basically killed Bombardier. It would be political suicide to buy a Boeing plane. But a single engine is a poor choice for Canada. They should have bought the Rafale or something like that.
(Bloomberg) -- The Air Force’s decision to cut 15 Lockheed Martin Corp. F-35 jets from its fiscal 2023 budget request is a temporary dip caused by delays in a $14 billion program of upgrades and a need to shift funds to new aircraft and a new engine program, service secretary Frank Kendall said.
Among recipients of those funds is the still-classified “Next Generation Air Dominance” fighter, he said.
The long-standing plan for the Air Force to buy 1,763 stealthy F-35s hasn’t changed, Kendall told reporters in advance of Monday’s release of the Biden administration’s proposed budget for the year that begins Oct. 1.
“The numbers come back up” after 2023, Kendall said. “We are not changing the goal.” He said the Air Force is “15 years into production and we’ll be building F-35s probably another 15 years.”
Overall, the Pentagon is requesting $11 billion to buy 61 F-35s, down from a previously planned 94. In addition to 33 for the Air Force, the budget proposes 13 of the Navy’s model and 15 of the Marine Corps version.
The Air Force wants to buy fewer F-35s in the coming year in part so it can buy 12 more F-15EX aircraft from Boeing Co. than had been planned for the next budget. That would speed retirement of aging F-15C version planes. The EX model carries more ordnance than the F-35 and is estimated to be less costly to fly.
In addition, funds will go to a new aircraft engine program and the program to build a “Next Generation Air Dominance” fighter to come after the F-35.
In the meantime, Kendall said “we’ll look for Lockheed to to make more progress” on the F-35’s Block 4 software upgrade that “has not been what we wanted.”
The upgrade has a new hardware processor to increase the computing power and memory of the F-35. In addition, it’s intended to allow the fighters to carry new AIM-9X Block II air-to-air missiles, all-weather Small Diameter Bomb II munitions, radar-killing AARGM-ER missiles, several allied-produced bombs and the B-61 nuclear bomb.
Among recipients of those funds is the still-classified “Next Generation Air Dominance” fighter, he said.
The long-standing plan for the Air Force to buy 1,763 stealthy F-35s hasn’t changed, Kendall told reporters in advance of Monday’s release of the Biden administration’s proposed budget for the year that begins Oct. 1.
“The numbers come back up” after 2023, Kendall said. “We are not changing the goal.” He said the Air Force is “15 years into production and we’ll be building F-35s probably another 15 years.”
Overall, the Pentagon is requesting $11 billion to buy 61 F-35s, down from a previously planned 94. In addition to 33 for the Air Force, the budget proposes 13 of the Navy’s model and 15 of the Marine Corps version.
The Air Force wants to buy fewer F-35s in the coming year in part so it can buy 12 more F-15EX aircraft from Boeing Co. than had been planned for the next budget. That would speed retirement of aging F-15C version planes. The EX model carries more ordnance than the F-35 and is estimated to be less costly to fly.
In addition, funds will go to a new aircraft engine program and the program to build a “Next Generation Air Dominance” fighter to come after the F-35.
In the meantime, Kendall said “we’ll look for Lockheed to to make more progress” on the F-35’s Block 4 software upgrade that “has not been what we wanted.”
The upgrade has a new hardware processor to increase the computing power and memory of the F-35. In addition, it’s intended to allow the fighters to carry new AIM-9X Block II air-to-air missiles, all-weather Small Diameter Bomb II munitions, radar-killing AARGM-ER missiles, several allied-produced bombs and the B-61 nuclear bomb.
TerraN_EmpirE
Tyrant King
Rafale withdrew from the competition as the US and Canada have treaties to integrate air defense capabilities. As such the French would have had to exchange technology and they don’t want to do that.
Saab Gripen was in the running again single engine but F35 performs better across the board. The twin engine vs Single engine is a dated argument these days it just leads to higher unit price for upkeep.
Canada has bought plenty of Euro aircraft, once upon a time it even developed its own. Frankly this is just the most logical option. Since Canada is only buying 88 units.
TerraN_EmpirE
Tyrant King
Nothing to do with anything.
three events, one on takeoff, one on landing only one in flight. None seem to have been engine or range related.