F-35 Joint Strike Fighter News, Videos and pics Thread
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No, the two RNLAF aircraft I showed in the list (which I had a typo in the designation) are the two Netherland's aircraft.
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No F-35 has TVC, but this is an A model with fixed nozzles, not the STOVL bird, brat.
So no, none of the F-35s are equipped with TVC as a pitch control enhancer, and all the high AoA work was done with the very conventionally configured A model, with the spin chute frame work welded on the aft fuselage, just in case the A model entered a stable unrecoverable condition, which it never did. NO surprises except how well it out-performed expectations.... That the conventionally configured A model was able to be pitched to 73degrees on stabilator authority alone belies the F-35s very effective stabilator authority even post stall, another benefit of the mass centralization of the mid-wing design, but like an arrow with the mass forward and the feahers aft, the aft mounted control surfaces function in much the same way feathers stabilize and arrow in flight, and if you notice in the video the nose always pitches down to break the stall, although in one particular sequence the nose is way down for a long time, however the pilot may have held the nose down intentionally... Brat
No F-35 has TVC, but this is an A model with fixed nozzles, not the STOVL bird, brat.
So no, none of the F-35s are equipped with TVC as a pitch control enhancer, and all the high AoA work was done with the very conventionally configured A model, with the spin chute frame work welded on the aft fuselage, just in case the A model entered a stable unrecoverable condition, which it never did. NO surprises except how well it out-performed expectations.... That the conventionally configured A model was able to be pitched to 73degrees on stabilator authority alone belies the F-35s very effective stabilator authority even post stall, another benefit of the mass centralization of the mid-wing design, but like an arrow with the mass forward and the feahers aft, the aft mounted control surfaces function in much the same way feathers stabilize and arrow in flight, and if you notice in the video the nose always pitches down to break the stall, although in one particular sequence the nose is way down for a long time, however the pilot may have held the nose down intentionally... Brat
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I am just quoting the source from Edwards that I referenced when the engineer noted that the spin chute is much heavier than the typical braking chute, I was pointing out the wing and control planform of the F-35 which is what we would consider conventional as opposed to canards or aft mounted delta wings. Also depending on the alloy, aluminum welds up very nicely and some of the most beautiful welds I have ever seen are on aluminum or Titanium, but they do require a special technique and material that is not nearly as simple as welding iron or steel. Brat
I am just quoting the source from Edwards that I referenced when the engineer noted that the spin chute is much heavier than the typical braking chute, I was pointing out the wing and control planform of the F-35 which is what we would consider conventional as opposed to canards or aft mounted delta wings. Also depending on the alloy, aluminum welds up very nicely and some of the most beautiful welds I have ever seen are on aluminum or Titanium, but they do require a special technique and material that is not nearly as simple as welding iron or steel. Brat
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I didn't quite get that either, but the F-35 was a gleam in somebody's eye for a long time like the ATF that resulted in the F-22, the JSF spent years in her formative stage. While the J-20 certainly isn't China's first indigenous A2A air superiority project, it is certainly her most ambitious, and if the J-20 comes to fruition as many of us are quite certain she will, she is a lovely back to the basics design that any pilot/engineer would be proud to be associated with.
According to today's AFM Daily Report the only thing not on draw-down at Nellis is F-35 developmental testing, which is one of the few bright spots in BHO's sequester, it is indeed disgraceful, but just another notch in BHO's gunbelt as he takes aim at America's military community.
I didn't quite get that either, but the F-35 was a gleam in somebody's eye for a long time like the ATF that resulted in the F-22, the JSF spent years in her formative stage. While the J-20 certainly isn't China's first indigenous A2A air superiority project, it is certainly her most ambitious, and if the J-20 comes to fruition as many of us are quite certain she will, she is a lovely back to the basics design that any pilot/engineer would be proud to be associated with.
According to today's AFM Daily Report the only thing not on draw-down at Nellis is F-35 developmental testing, which is one of the few bright spots in BHO's sequester, it is indeed disgraceful, but just another notch in BHO's gunbelt as he takes aim at America's military community.
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Also I learned long ago, perhaps matters have changed since, weldable Aluminum alloys are not well suited for structural use in aircraft.