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will drive deeper and more useful military connections between Australia, the United States and regional partners such as Japan and Malaysia, the head of Australia’s air force said today.

“This aircraft has redefined joint”
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Air Marshal Leo Davies said at the Center for Strategic and International Studies this morning, accelerating policy and doctrine conversations between Australia’s services. “JSF also means we are more than friends and allies. We are now technology partners whose capability brings us shared futures.”

On a regional level, the F-35 provides “interoperability not only of Australian and US forces, but other regional and allied JSF operators.” Japan and South Korea are buying F-35As and Singapore is widely expected to buy F-35Bs.

Combine that with his country’s decisions to buy the
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(the maritime version of Global Hawk) and the two countries now boast what Davies called “institutional interoperability.” Parts and equipment can be shared and many pilots have trained together.

“Ultimately, whether through friendship or institutional arrangement, our combined joint capability means we can prosecute our shared interest together more decisively and, where necessary, we possess the means to do so more forcefully,” the air marshal said. Those closer ties he characterized as “steel threads that bridge oceans.”

Australia won’t back away from regional powers who may not possess the most advanced military hardware. For example, Australia’s P-8 Poseidons, possessed of highly classified systems and data, “will continue to operate from Malaysia,” he said. They will fly counter-piracy and security missions as have their predecessors, the AP-3C, for 30 years.

One of the more intriguing parts of Davies’ speech was what he didn’t say:
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. It was everywhere in his speech, yet he didn’t call the country by its name once. He stressed the importance of the liberal “rules-based global order,” often used to describe the international regime of which Britain and America have been the mainstays. He stressed the importance of freedom of navigation and overflight. He mentioned
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as critical friends in the region with whom Australia would operate.

“It is our unique relationships with regional players, relationships which the US may not enjoy, that allows us to play a special role here. We have, if you will, the insight of a permanent resident,” Davies said.
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"... Information Maneuverability ... theory explains how the F-35 is dominant in simulated warfare exercises via the information domain."
I would prefer to know though how an F-35 fares against a Mig-21 (and no, I don't mean theory)
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The recent Red Flag and the lop-sided wins by the F-35 tell you everything you need to know as far as BVR, the F-35 is gonna win against "anything", with the possible exception of the F-22, and at some point possibly??? the J-20...

If we are talking about the F-35 against the Mig-21??? that's a no brainer, the F-35 A,B, and C will kick Mig 21 butt everyday and twice on Sunday, the Mig is 50s aerodynamics, (SCARY BAD!), (also has one of the highest fatal accident rates of any fighter ever flown) how's that gonna stack up against the "sweetheart" tug and pull all you want, there's not a "mean bone" anywhere in the F-35s flight regime.

The ITR and STR are instantly and without sweat of any kind attainable in a heartbeat, no real concerns about departure, high speed stalls, or control reversal, overspeeds or loss of control. You see the Mig and look at him, target him, and KABLOOIE! he dead! the much higher performance aerodynamics make this a very sweet airplane in every flight regime, from instrument departures, to instrument approaches, and everything else in between.

Mig 29 and SU-27 might be a slight challenge in a close in, guns only exchange, but nothing the competent pilot won't be able to handle?? the F-35 does have very superior low speed handling with lots of warning and safety from the FCS... but up close, it could be dicey and go either way, but then again, why limit yourself to in close when you can kill him from a very safe "hidey hole", just like a sniper.
 
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The recent Red Flag and the lop-sided wins by the F-35 tell you everything you need to know as far as BVR, the F-35 is gonna win against "anything", with the possible exception of the F-22, and at some point possibly??? the J-20...

If we are talking about the F-35 against the Mig-21??? that's a no brainer, the F-35 A,B, and C will kick Mig 21 butt everyday and twice on Sunday, the Mig is 50s aerodynamics, (SCARY BAD!), (also has one of the highest fatal accident rates of any fighter ever flown) how's that gonna stack up against the "sweetheart" tug and pull all you want, there's not a "mean bone" anywhere in the F-35s flight regime.

The ITR and STR are instantly and without sweat of any kind attainable in a heartbeat, no real concerns about departure, high speed stalls, or control reversal, overspeeds or loss of control. You see the Mig and look at him, target him, and KABLOOIE! he dead! the much higher performance aerodynamics make this a very sweet airplane in every flight regime, from instrument departures, to instrument approaches, and everything else in between.

Mig 29 and SU-27 might be a slight challenge in a close in, guns only exchange, but nothing the competent pilot won't be able to handle?? the F-35 does have very superior low speed handling with lots of warning and safety from the FCS... but up close, it could be dicey and go either way, but then again, why limit yourself to in close when you can kill him from a very safe "hidey hole", just like a sniper.
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Simple because of the rules of engagement set forth by political leaders
 
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Simple because of the rules of engagement set forth by political leaders
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This has nothing to do with an ROE of any sort, if you are inferring Red-Flag was stacked to the advantage of the F-35, you're very sadly mistaken. They deliberately made it as difficult for the F-35 as they were able, and it defeated every resource thrown at it, and then some.

But hey, believe what you like, when the real world KRAP hits the fan? I'd rather be flying the ThunderHogge II! and it is far more than sufficiently maneuverable to do the do, but it will likely never come to that, but if it does folks are very well trained to win!
 
Jura The idiot

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"... Information Maneuverability ... theory explains how the F-35 is dominant in simulated warfare exercises via the information domain."
I would prefer to know though how an F-35 fares against a Mig-21 (and no, I don't mean theory)
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The recent Red Flag and the lop-sided wins by the F-35 tell you everything you need to know as far as BVR, the F-35 is gonna win against "anything", with the possible exception of the F-22, and at some point possibly??? the J-20...

If we are talking about the F-35 against the Mig-21??? that's a no brainer, the F-35 A,B, and C will kick Mig 21 butt everyday and twice on Sunday, the Mig is 50s aerodynamics, (SCARY BAD!), (also has one of the highest fatal accident rates of any fighter ever flown) how's that gonna stack up against the "sweetheart" tug and pull all you want, there's not a "mean bone" anywhere in the F-35s flight regime.

The ITR and STR are instantly and without sweat of any kind attainable in a heartbeat, no real concerns about departure, high speed stalls, or control reversal, overspeeds or loss of control. You see the Mig and look at him, target him, and KABLOOIE! he dead! the much higher performance aerodynamics make this a very sweet airplane in every flight regime, from instrument departures, to instrument approaches, and everything else in between.

Mig 29 and SU-27 might be a slight challenge in a close in, guns only exchange, but nothing the competent pilot won't be able to handle?? the F-35 does have very superior low speed handling with lots of warning and safety from the FCS... but up close, it could be dicey and go either way, but then again, why limit yourself to in close when you can kill him from a very safe "hidey hole", just like a sniper.
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Brother, we don't disappoint each other, do we? LOL!
 
Jura The idiot

Jura The idiot

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May 6, 2017
Jura said:
Hush! Hush!
"Italy’s governing Democratic Party has come under fire for sticking with the program and appears to want give the aircraft a low profile with elections due by the first half of next year."
Italy rolls out first F-35B assembled outside US
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Italians say 'Ciao' to first locally built F-35B
The first F-35B Short Take-Off/Vertical Landing (STOVL) has been assembled at the Final Assembly and Check-Out (FACO facility in Cameri, Italy on May 5.

The Italian FACO is owned by the Italian Ministry of Defence and is operated by Leonardo in conjunction with Lockheed Martin with a current workforce of more than 800 skilled personnel engaged in full assembly of the Conventional Take-off/Landing F-35A and F-35B aircraft variants and F-35A wing production.

“Italy is not only a valued F-35 program partner that has achieved many F-35 program ‘firsts’, but is also a critical NATO air component force, providing advanced airpower for the alliance for the coming decades,” Lockheed Martin F-35 Program Management vice president Doug Wilhelm said. “Italian industry has participated in the design of the F-35 and Italian industry made components fly on every production F-35 built to date.”

BL-1’s first flight is anticipated in late August and it is programmed to be delivered to the Italian Ministry of Defence in November. In addition, two Italian F-35A aircraft will deliver from Cameri this year, the first by July and the second in the fourth quarter. To date, seven F-35As have been delivered from the Cameri FACO; four of those jets are now based at Luke Air Force Base, Arizona, for international pilot training and three are at Amendola Air Base, near Foggio on the Adriatic coast. The Aeronautica Militare (Italian Air Force) has already flown more than 100 flight hours in its Amendola-based F-35As.

After a series of confidence flights from Cameri, an Italian pilot will fly the first Italian F-35B jet to Naval Air Station Patuxent River, Maryland, early in 2018 to conduct required Electromagnetic Environmental Effects certification. The next Italian F-35B aircraft is scheduled for delivery in November 2018. The Cameri FACO has the only F-35B production capability outside the US and is programmed to produce a total of 30 Italian F-35Bs and 60 Italian F-35As, along with 29 F-35As for the Royal Netherlands Air Force. It retains the capacity to deliver to other European partners in the future.

The Italian FACO is also producing 835 F-35A full wing sets to support all customers in the program. The FACO was selected by the US Department of Defense in 2014 as the F-35 Lightning II Heavy Airframe Maintenance, Repair, Overhaul and Upgrade facility for the European region. The 101-acre facility includes 22 buildings and more than one million square feet of covered work space, housing 11 assembly stations, and five maintenance, repair, overhaul, and upgrade bays.

On September 7, 2015, the first Italian-produced F-35A built at the Cameri FACO made the first international flight in F-35 program history, and in February 2016, the F-35A made the program's first trans-Atlantic crossing. In December 2016, the Italian Air Force's first F-35s arrived at the first in-country base, Amendola AB.

In other F-35 news, the USAF has confirmed it will send F-35A aircraft to the Paris Air Show in June 2017. In April, eight F-35As and several hundred US airmen
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