F-35 Joint Strike Fighter News, Videos and pics Thread

[Jura The idiot]

Saturday at 9:55 PM

Yesterday at 10:10 PM


Today at 9:12 AM

and American F-35s deploy to the UK on training exercise

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now the vid:

 

[Air Force Brat]

good you 'committed', with 'extremely agile', 'tremendously powerful'

I have NO PROBLEM committing the F-35 to those standards, while semi-informed folks will tell you it was only to be ground attack, and disqualify the F-35 as an A2A platform??

the AFB would remind all that a Strike Fighter requires tremendous lift and weight carrying ability and the F-35 is nearly identical in all aerodynamic aspects to the F-22.
High lift forward fuselage, blended fuselage wing juncture, very high lift wings, those are "blood lines with the F-22. The reason that neither the F-22 nor F-35 have tremendously high top speeds is that they are in fact optimized for lift in the 500knt to 1.2 mach for the F-35, up to 1.8 mach for the F-22.

In other words they are optimized for "real world" performance in their 90% of the time flight regime, so while they each will fly very slowly, making lots of lift, their absolute top end was never a priority, as most fighter aircraft NEVER see those numbers on ANY flight?? Yes the Soviets optimize for top end, no doubt the Flanker is a very fast aircraft, and an excellent aircraft, also very agile, but remember in the real world there is no free lunch!

I often get "free lunch" as the bus driver on sports outings, but the restaurant "comps" me that, they pay for my lunch to keep me bringing my little "sports" back to their restaurant, even though I don't pay for it, somebody else does, bless their hearts!

 

[Air Force Brat]

My exact words were
far more then the vertical stabilizer of the Rafale.
Although I might have flubbed a bit or two as the Fuselage of the lightning produces about 40% of the lift for the bird.

Very well stated sir, and I realize my earthling brain is only half the size of your's Bub?? but I just want to keep you honest, and I told you I do like to argue!

Good job Terran! and great response, the Forward Fuselage and indeed the whole airframe are making lots of lift, I'd say 40% is spot on, and that's a lot, the F-35 has indeed been optimized to make lots of LOCKMART lift!

 

[Jura The idiot]

I have NO PROBLEM committing the F-35 to those standards, while semi-informed folks will tell you it was only to be ground attack, and disqualify the F-35 as an A2A platform??

the AFB would remind all that a Strike Fighter requires tremendous lift and weight carrying ability and the F-35 is nearly identical in all aerodynamic aspects to the F-22.
High lift forward fuselage, blended fuselage wing juncture, very high lift wings, those are "blood lines with the F-22. The reason that neither the F-22 nor F-35 have tremendously high top speeds is that they are in fact optimized for lift in the 500knt to 1.2 mach for the F-35, up to 1.8 mach for the F-22.

In other words they are optimized for "real world" performance in their 90% of the time flight regime, ...

all right, I'll wait for real-world results

I don't mean to "discredit" F-35 (anyway I couldn't but this:

looks like a brick to me

 

[FORBIN]

Extremely Agile, the max AOA on the Lightning II is limited by the FCS to 50 degrees, the max AOA demonstrated is well over 100 degrees.... As you pull aft stick in maneuvering most 4 gens are nearing departure in the 20s-30s, with F-18s, probably Flankers able to push that into the mid 30s or so.

The F-35's F-135 powerplant is tremendously powerful, while very careful wing fuselage blending and "chining" of the forward fuselage all contribute significantly to total lift...

the only aspect I would argue with Terrain is that the canted verts contribute much lift, I would quantify that lift as "notional" or very small in total.

I would remind everyone, that AF-2 has been to 9.9 G in flight test with the limiters off the flight controls, that friends is Raptor country,,,, but then its doubtful that anything will actually pull more G than a Raptor?

Also very agile, particularly for a STOVL aircraft!

The B is less agile i think for mass reason or ? actualy Block 3i, max 5.5 G after Block 3F, 7 G
A : 7 after 9 G
C : 4.5 after 7.5 G

Remains a posibility a trick with B suddenly braking to be overtaken as UK Sea Harriers could have done during Falklands War but never occured.

while semi-informed folks will tell you it was only to be ground attack, and disqualify the F-35 as an A2A platform??

Doubters i don't trust a second for two reasons USA are reputed for sensors quality and in more EOTS want or maybe better than Sniper Pod which is yet know for her quality so surely very accurate for destroy targets.
In addition F-35 carry a weapons load a bit more important up to 6 bombs 454 - 907 kg - B different - F-16 in general 4.

 

[FORBIN]

Doubters i don't trust a second for two reasons USA are reputed for sensors quality and in more EOTS want or maybe better than Sniper Pod which is yet know for her quality so surely very accurate for destroy targets.
In addition F-35 carry a weapons load a bit more important up to 6 bombs 454 - 907 kg - B different - F-16 in general 4.

For A2G capacity also i have see doubters

I often get "free lunch" as the bus driver on sports outings, but the restaurant "comps" me that, they pay for my lunch to keep me bringing my little "sports" back to their restaurant, even though I don't pay for it, somebody else does, bless their hearts!

Your funny haha and after restaurant back to shool or home LOL

 

[Jura The idiot]

now I read US Marines continue F-35B workup in Japan

The first Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II Joint Strike Fighter squadron to deploy overseas is continuing the type’s expeditionary workup, conducting training exercises to operate the aircraft in real-world scenarios while operating from austere locations.

In separate news releases, the U.S. Marine Corps announced that the Green Knights of Marine Fighter Attack Squadron (VMFA) 121 have carried out hot reloads and aviation-delivered ground refueling, or ADGR, training with its F-35Bs at Marine Corps Air Station Iwakuni, Japan, on April 6 and 11 respectively.

A hot reload is the process of loading ordnance onto an aircraft while the pilot remains in the cockpit with the engine running.

The ADGR exercise saw a Marine KC-130J Hercules tanker transfer fuel directly to the F-35B while both aircraft were on the ground.

According to the Marines, this signified the first time the forward-deployed squadron loaded ordnance onto a running F-35B at Iwakuni in order to prepare for real-world scenarios, while the squadron’s first ADGR established flow rates of fuel in gallons per minute to determine how fast the process could be carried out.

The Marines added that successfully completing the ADGR is a landmark that increases the capabilities of the squadron, offering the ability to refuel by C-130 aircraft in austere locations when other resources are unavailable.

Video released by the service showed that during the hot reload, 1,000-pound inert GBU-32 satellite-guided Joint Direct Attack Munitions were loaded onto the internal weapons bay of the F-35B, which can carry a maximum of two such weapons.

The GBU-32 had only been loaded into the F-35B’s internal weapons bay for the first time two days before, during a similar hot reload performed by Marine Aviation Weapons and Tactics Squadron One, or MAWTS-1, during the semiannual Weapons and Tactics Instructor Course 2-17 at Marine Corps Air Station Yuma, Arizona.

The ability to hot reload the F-35B, opposed to shutting down the aircraft completely to load, can save wear and tear on the aircraft. In a combat situation, performing a hot load would save time and minimize any failure opportunities with the aircraft, according to Master Sgt. Jason Daniel, an ordnance chief with MAWTS-1.

Maj. Adam Perlin, aircraft maintenance officer for VMFA-121 and the pilot on board the F-35B conducting the hot reload at Iwakuni, said that executing the training helped build a knowledge basis and proficiency for the ordnance Marines and the aircrew.

“Little steps like what we did today are moving the entire program along,” Perlin said. “Conducting this training for the first time here in Iwakuni and making sure we get these things right enhances our capabilities as well as the Marine Corps’ capabilities as a whole.”

VMFA-121 currently has 10 F-35Bs based at Iwakuni with the number due to rise to 16 and another six to arrive over the summer, bringing the squadron to full strength. The squadron is also due to go to sea with the Wasp Amphibious Ready Group as part of the 31st Marine Expeditionary Unit in the fall.

The amphibious assault ship Wasp is scheduled to become part of the U.S. 7th Fleet forward-deployed naval forces later this year when it moves from Norfolk, Virginia, to Sasebo, Japan. The ship will eventually replace the current forward-deployed amphibious assault ship Bonhomme Richard, which is due to return to San Diego, California, for maintenance and upgrades in 2018.

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[Air Force Brat]

For A2G capacity also i have see doubters



Your funny haha and after restaurant back to shool or home LOL

Yep ! It all good when the coach wants to stop!

 

[Air Force Brat]

all right, I'll wait for real-world results

I don't mean to "discredit" F-35 (anyway I couldn't but this:
looks like a brick to me

Of course you think that, so do 99.5% of the adult population, because you my friend cannot see lift,,,I've seen enough blue smoke in wind-tunnel testing and water flowing around rocks in the river to be able to "SEE LIFT"?? I rather doubt that most folks can visualize the airflow over these very complex aerodynamic "lifting bodies", vortex generators, slats, all those kool toys enhance lift, and lift is the sum total of all the addition.

Well Jura, back in the 40's, 50's, even early 60's an especially well built chick was said to be "built like a brick-outhouse"! they actually used the same word sailor's used for the toilet, as in "brick chit-house".

So I'm just gonna say she's built like a brick chit-house, and all the bricks are in the right places.

So to have come to a place where I "see lift", I've a passion for watching aircraft, imagining aircraft, imagining vehicles I'm driving are aircraft,,, on any landing where I have added flaps in a Cessna, the flaps move aft before beginning their downward travel, in fact the flap tracks are curved and initially the curve is fairly flat for the first 15-20 degrees of flap travel. As you exceed 10 degrees or so the tracks take a steeper turn down. So you are not only deflecting the flaps downward to change the camber of the wing, but moving them aft to increase the "area" of the wing...

Every bit of that can be felt through your Mark 1 butt, that's your main connection to your aircraft....

reference "by the seat of your pants", all that information is taken in by your Mark I eyeball and feed into your Mark 1 onboard flight computer! between your ears!

 

[Jura The idiot]

Of course you think that, so do 99.5% of the adult population, ...

LOL

time will tell the rest