F-35 Joint Strike Fighter News, Videos and pics Thread

ahho

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No, Justin Trudeau is a typical liberal, he ran against the old guard and their decision to buy the F-35 in order to get elected, now Canada is buying yesterdays airplane, to wage war against tomorrow's threat! The F-35 is an easy target to sway the un-washed masses of socialists who don't necessarily realize that their very existence is a stake, and haven't yet realized their fellow citizens who are conservative, aren't their real enemies???

Yesterday's airplane with lots of electronics, as opposed to tomorrow's airplane with lots of electronics, pretty stupid, when keeping your commitment would net you a great boon to business and future work on this amazing little airplane, that will take on "ALL" comers and defeat them!

So NO, Canadian liberals aren't any smarter than US liberals, they all want something for nothing, and somebody else to pay.

So Hey, let em keep Boeing in business on the F-18, helps the St. Louis economy, and speaking of that where is Kwai???

Why would our existence be at stake?? Canada has long being a socialist state also.

The first thing you have to consider is Canada's budget, we don't have too much money to buy state of the art weapon system. F-35 definitely is good, but when you consider where Canada stand, the question is, do we really need it and would it be cheaper to buy it at a later time when F-35 is mature. Also, the other country that are considered adversaries, are still in their testing phase for their stealth fighter and Canada won't be going in with other small NATO countries to fight them with only a few F-35. If Canada decide to join another conflict similar to Iraq or Afghanistan, would you want to risk send F-35 there or a state of the art 4th gen fighter?

Why bring Liberals vs Conservative on this forum??? Canadians never really see other political parties supporter as enemies, but sometimes the government just make bad decisions.
 

FORBIN

Lieutenant General
Registered Member
Again one on America

Inventory :
For few days 54th F-35B, about 1 new all the 2 months
Early 2016 : 27 F-35C whose 6 USMC, about 1 new all 6 months
08/2016 : 100 F-35A, about 2 new each month

LM plant to Ft Worth can build easy 150 by year have do for F-16 in 1980's eventualy Italian plant can help right now build only Italians and NL F-35 90 + 37 some build to US then about 120.

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ahho

Junior Member
I think someone have answered this in the past, but I was not paying attention. The F-35 configuration that is in Forbin's picture, how much less stealthy if the plane is carrying the missing outside of the internal bay?
 

Jeff Head

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Monday at 7:56 PM

related (the caption says Published on Nov 23, 2016):
"... put ... twelve F-35s on the ship, this ship instantly becomes the most powerful concentration of combat power ever put to see in the history of the world ..." toward the end of the first minute
That last is a little over the top.

without en E-2C/D...witout the other supporting aircraft, etc. that America LHA or Wasp Class LHD arguably becomes the second most powerful carrier at this point nect to the US nuclear carriers, which will be carrying 12-20 F-35Cs themselves.

Later, probably 3rd to the QE Class which will each be carrying 12-24 F-35Bs and ill have their own more powerful helo AEW which the America andWasp calss at this point do not have.

Powerf;l? Yes! Absolutely and something adversary nations will take stock of because thise means the US can creat 4-5 more strong carrier groups anytime she wants to in addition to the Nimitz and the Fords.
 
F-35Bs (and Ospreys) extolled in
We went aboard USS America during USMC F-35B Proof Of Concept Sea Trials
We Visited the USS America with 12 F-35Bs on Board!

The rumble of the
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reverberated off the flight deck of the USS America (LHA-6).

The 12 F-35Bs onboard represented more F-35s than had ever gathered at sea. The
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moving steadily towards deployment represents an unprecedented leap in capability, the future of formidable maritime power.

The gathering of assets was part of a joint US Navy (USN)/ US Marine Corps (USMC) “Proof of Concept” demonstration held off the coast of Southern California Nov. 18-20.

PAO Capt. Sarah Burns indicated that the demonstration would explore the best way to integrate a large package of F-35Bs into the current USN/USMC structure to bring the most effective power projection from the sea.

Lt. General Jon M. Davis, Deputy Commandant for Aviation shared a core value of the Marine Corps demonstrated onboard, “No Marine Corps platform fights alone.” The F-35B,
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combined and integrated with the US Navy’s latest amphibious assault ship (USS America) complete a package that provides the Marine Air-Ground Task Force (MAGTF) with a broad spectrum of response options, and the most advanced mobile warfighting capability.

The MV-22B Ospreys speed and range have been a game changer for the USMC MAGTF, and now with the F-35B on hand the operational possibilities take yet another quantum leap. The sea based capability provides global mobility unrestrained by availability of land bases. This integrated USN/USMC capability is ideal for the fight against terrorism, and/or the insertion of Marine infantryman or special forces deep in hostile territory.

The access is increased even more given the platforms ability to quickly relocate to austere forward operating bases. Given the F-35Bs stealth, advanced sensors, situational awareness and weapons, it also provides the capability to operate in proximity of areas hosting Integrated Air Defense Systems (IADS) or Anti-Access/Area-Denial (A2/AD) environments.

The demonstrated integration of the F-35 and the US Navy’s AEGIS Ballistic Missile Defense System adds tremendous potency to an already capable system. The F-35 can provide over the horizon targeting data to a readily available USN AEGIS platform that can quickly intercept ballistic missile, drone, or hostile aircraft with its SM-6 missile (widely believed to have a range beyond 200 mile). This allows stealth detection of targets by the F-35, and a virtually unlimited (boatload) of missiles to utilize.

The F-35B replaces three Marine Corps aircraft, the F/A-18 Hornet, the
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, and the
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. Not only does it do the job of each aircraft better, it adds Intelligence, Surveillance & Reconnaissance (ISR) and Command & Control (C2) capability. The F-35B fulfills the USMC vision of “every Marine Corps aircraft a sensor, a shooter and a sharer.”

Once onboard the USS America the rumbling of the Osprey was quickly replaced by the near continuous roar of F-35Bs launching and landing. The tempo of operations demonstrated the F-35Bs readiness for deployment and combat activity. That should come as no surprise given the “B” has over 22,000 combined flight hours.

The F-35B advanced flight systems reduce pilot workload and increase safety in all aspects of flight. USMC pilot Lt. Col. Rich “VC” Rusnok an experienced AV-8B Harrier II pilot and slated to become the Commanding Officer (CO) of VFMA-121 in 2017 noted that, “hovering in the Harrier was like sitting on a one-legged bar stool.” His comment was complemented by USMC pilot Lt. Col. John “Guts” Price (slated to become the CO of VFMA-122 in 2018). Price noted that his first hover in a F-35B found him realize his learned instincts in the Harrier to provide inputs created problems in the hover, and it was better to ease off the controls and let the F-35B do as it wanted! Perhaps nowhere is this ease of flying more evident than in the speed of pilots Carrier Qualifications (CQs); in the previous 4 years only 8 USMC F-35B pilots had CQ’d, in the past 3 weeks 19 pilots CQ’d!

The Marine Corps lead the way with the F-35 program. The deployment of VMFA-121 the “Green Knights” to Japan is motion to take place in January 2017, with further deployments slated for 2018. It all speaks to the ongoing progress and maturity of the F-35 program. This “aerial amphibious assault force” represents a new era of flexibility and capability for the MAGTF, and I anticipate we’ll regularly see the USS America serving the nations interests in strategic locations around the globe.
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... taking off:
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it's fresh (dated Nov 27, 2016 8:45 PM):
Israel Decides to Buy 17 Additional F-35 Fighter Jets
Will bring number of advanced stealth jets in Israel Air Force to 50. First pair to land in Israel in two weeks.

The security cabinet decided unanimously on Sunday to purchase 17 additional F-35 stealth fighter jets from the United States. The Prime Minister's Bureau said the new purchase will bring the number of F-35s in the Israel Air Force to 50.

The state-of-the-art F-35, already nicknamed the Adir (Hebrew for mighty or glorious) in Israel, is considered the world's most advanced fighter aircraft. The additional purchase will enable Israel's Air Force to outfit two full squadrons of the plane.

In 2014, the security cabinet decided to buy an initial 14 jets, instead of a planned 31, for budgetary reasons. One of the main opponents of the plan to buy a larger number of F-35s was then-Intelligence Affairs Minister Yuval Steinitz, who said at the time that the cabinet did not need to be a rubber stamp for the defense establishment. But it was clear to the military even then that this would simply mean splitting the purchase of the planes up and that the remainder of the F-35s would be bought later, which is what happened in the end.

The planes, produced by Lockheed Martin, are being purchased as part of the military aid agreement between the United States and Israel. The price of each individual plan is estimated at about $110 million.

The first F-35 squadron is now being established and Israel's first pair of F-35s are scheduled to land in Israel at the Nevatim air force base near Be'er Sheva in two weeks. They will be flown from the United States to Israel by American pilots, with mid-air refueling over the Atlantic Ocean and the Mediterranean. The next day two of the six Israeli pilots who trained in the United States to fly the Adir will take over.
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of course DefenseNews knew Israel to Acquire 17 More F-35s
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so did The Aviationist:
Israeli Government Approves Purchase of 17 more F-35s bringing the total to 50 stealth jets
Nov 27 2016
Despite criticism, Israel decided to exercise the option for another 17 aircraft. And there might also be some F-35Bs at the horizon to enable the Israeli Air Force to continue operating from dispersed locations in case of attack.
On Nov. 27, the Israeli Ministerial Committee for National Security, headed by Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu decided to purchase another 17 F-35A Conventional Take Off and Landing (CTOL) aircraft, bringing the total to 50 Lightning II jets.

The first two examples of the controversial, expensive, advanced 5th Generation aircraft, designated “Adir” (“Mighty One”) by the Israeli, are expected to be delivered to the Israeli Air Force (IAF), at Nevatim Air Base in southern Israel, in about three weeks.

The stealth aircraft, that the Israeli Defense Minister Avigdor Liberman defined “
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” was contracted through the U.S. government’s Foreign Military Sales program; the first 33 examples
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: the first one worth 2.75 billion USD and the second for 2.82 billion USD, including infrastructure, parts, and training simulators.

The Israeli F-35s will have some components contributed by Israeli companies, including Israel Aerospace Industries that will produce the F-35’s outer wings, Elbit Systems-Cyclone, that will provide center fuselage composite components as well as Elbit Systems Ltd. that will provide Gen. III helmet-mounted display systems to be worn by all Lightning II pilots.

Although the extent of
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, the IAF F-35As will be somehow different from the “standard” F-35s, as they will embed national EW (Electronic Warfare) pods, weaponry, C4 systems etc. This is the reason why Israeli F-35s are sometimes dubbed F-35I (for Israel), as if they were a different variant from the three baseline versions (A, B and C).

For sure, the new sales represents a good promotion for Lockheed Martin, considered the fame of the Israeli Air Force, known to be one of the most advanced and very well equipped: if the F-35s were deemed to be able to meet all the requirements of a service with a really strong reputation, that has been
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and has employed its combat planes to perform some really complex operations (like the air strikes on the
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and the
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), then they should be good for most of the world air forces (some of those continue to invest in the program.)

Still, there are many, even at the Pentagon,
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By the way, the news comes few days after Canada announced the plan to use F/A-18E/F Super Hornet multi-role fighters as “gap fillers” until Ottawa decides on a replacement for its fleet of
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. In fact, after investing in the program for several decades, the new Trudeau Government
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of the F-35 (considered too expensive) and announced a new, forthcoming open competition for a permanent CF-18 replacement.

Anyway, it seems that the IAF might end up operating F-35Bs as well.

As we have already
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, talks between Israel and U.S. about
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of the F-35B,
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, have started in 2015, according to some Israeli media outlets.

F-35Bs would allow the aircraft to take off and land from
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in should Iran be able to knock out
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with precision weapons.

Israel is a small country and its main airfields could be easily threatened by long-range weapons in the hands of state actors or handed over to militant movements like Hamas and Hezbollah: IAF’s only chance to continue operating in case of attack would be dispersing aircraft to remote locations, an option that would be viable only thanks to the unique
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