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ARLINGTON, Va. — The Marine Corps will send the F-35B Lightning II strike fighter on deployments onboard amphibious assault ships in 2018, the Corps’ top aviator said.

Speaking to an audience July 29 at the American Enterprise Institute, Lt. Gen. Jon M. Davis, deputy commandant for aviation, said that the first operational F-35B squadron, Marine Fighter Attack 121 (VMFA-121), will deploy F-35Bs onboard an amphibious assault ship in summer 2018.

VMFA-121, currently based at Marine Corps Air Station (MCAS) Yuma, Ariz., will move to MCAS Iwakuni, Japan, in January with 10 F-35Bs. In accordance with the Marine Corps Aviation Plan, VMFA-121 will receive six more F-35Bs next summer. Reaching full strength of 16 aircraft, the squadron will be able to deploy a six-aircraft detachment in 2018 onboard the Wasp-class amphibious assault ship USS Bonhomme Richard, which is based in Sasebo, Japan.

The second operational F-35B squadron, VMFA-211, also based in Yuma, is slated to send an F-35B detachment to sea onboard an amphibious assault ship, Davis said.

VMFA-122, an F/A-18 squadron, will become the third operational F-35B squadron and move from MCAS Beaufort, S.C. VMFA-314, also an F/A-18 squadron, will receive the F-35C in 2019 and deploy with that aircraft onboard an aircraft carrier in 2020, Davis said.

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"The biggest program, the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter, expects future spending to outstrip past spending, but it’s still close to the halfway point and entering full-rate production, which means costs should stabilize."
should ... but would?
 

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"The biggest program, the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter, expects future spending to outstrip past spending, but it’s still close to the halfway point and entering full-rate production, which means costs should stabilize."

should ... but would?
The actual truth is that they ARE stabilizing and actually continuing to come down.

That trend will continue and they will end up, for the vast majority of the builds, be a very good price point for the 5th gen aircraft these countries will get.

Remember, only something like 180 have been built so far...out of an estimated 3000+ total.
 
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"The biggest program, the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter, expects future spending to outstrip past spending, but it’s still close to the halfway point and entering full-rate production, which means costs should stabilize."
should ... but would?
another word is might :) as in
US Air Force Boss: Faster F-35 Buy Rate Might Not Be Possible
The head of Air Combat Command wants to see the US Air Force build up its inventory of F-35s quicker than planned, but its civilian head signaled Wednesday that it might not be feasible in the current fiscal climate.

Speaking to the press on Tuesday, Gen. Herbert “Hawk” Carlisle said he was concerned about the service’s current F-35 buy rate, which hovers in the 40s until fiscal 2021 when that number jumps up to 60. Carlisle stated he would like the Air Force to buy at least 60 aircraft per year in the near term to replace legacy aircraft that is aging out.

But in an interview with Defense News and sister publication Air Force Times, Air Force Secretary Deborah Lee James said boosting the number of active-duty airmen is currently a bigger priority than ramping up the F-35 buy.

"It's all a matter of money. I would love to increase the buy also, but I don't see that as more urgent than staying the course to increase our end strength, for example,” she said in an interview Wednesday. “Increasing that end strength is the top thing. We think it's the top thing for all of our senior leaders.”

The Air Force is facing a variety of demands, James added, and there simply may not be space in the budget to afford any more F-35s.

“Realistically speaking, given that we've had so much difficulty getting sequestration lifted, I worry about the money. I'm not sure where the money would come from,” she said.

Carlisle noted Aug. 2 that increasing the number of F-35s bought would boost economic order quantity, bringing the cost per jet closer to its $85 million target. On the other hand, moving slowly could lead to the Air Force spending more money upgrading fourth-generation airplanes that would otherwise be removed from service.

“I need more [F-35s] sooner to replace legacy airplanes and airplanes that are going to require money to do service life extension and do capability increases if I don’t replace the F-35,” he said. “So I would like to see the numbers go up to at least 60 if I can. Eighty would be optimum, but given the fiscal constraints that we’re in today, 80 would be very, very hard to get to.”

The Heritage Foundation, a conservative think tank, released a report on Aug. 4 recommending that the Air Force procure its full 1,763-aircraft program of record throughout the life of the program. Once full-rate production starts, the aircraft will be cost-competitive with other fighters while outclassing them in nearly all capabilities, said John Venable, the senior defense fellow who wrote the report.

“The Air Force is currently deferring the purchase/cashing in on F-35As to pay for other critical needs that have gone unfunded or underfunded by Congress,” Venable wrote, referencing the service’s fiscal 2017 budget, which reduced its buy of F-35As by five aircraft when compared to the previous year’s plan. “That practice needs to end immediately.”

But buying more than planned probably isn’t in the cards, at least in the near term, said Richard Aboulafia, an analyst with the aerospace and defense expertise firm Teal Group.

Boosting the buy in 2018 is an unlikely prospect because the Air Force would have to take money from other procurement accounts in order to do so, he said. Even then, it has few options. The service cannot make big cuts to its KC-46 tanker program without breaking its fixed-priced contracting agreement. Slashing other procurement programs like the T-X trainer and Joint Surveillance Target Attack Radar System would not yield enough cash to meaningfully increase procurement.

“You’re left with two choices,” Aboulafia said. “You either grow the top-line [budget] — good luck with that — or you take cash away from the bomber, which doesn’t appear to be likely.”

Ramping up to a rate of 60 per year in 2021 is still the current plan, James said, but that could change.

“We're working our way through the next five year plan, the [program objective memorandum] that we're putting together right now, and everything in that POM at this point is still up for discussion,” she said.
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" I would love to increase the buy also, but I don't see that as more urgent than staying the course to increase our end strength, for example,” she said in an interview Wednesday. “Increasing that end strength is the top thing. We think it's the top thing for all of our senior leaders.”

The Air Force is facing a variety of demands, James added, and there simply may not be space in the budget to afford any more F-35s.
Not to mention the commitment to numerous allied nations and their builds.

I'd love to see 60 a year right now too...but that takes facilities, workmen, and also the pilots to fly them.

In addition, as I say, with commitments to the UK, Norway, the Netherlands, Italy, Israel, Japan, etc., etc. all of those aircraft builds and commitments take up manufacturing space and workers too.

At this point, 40 per year in 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, and 2021 is going to get the Air Force another two hundred aircraft on top of the over 100 they will have by the end of this year. By then the Air Force alone will have over 300 F-35As.

Then the 60 (and ultimately probably more) per year kicks in for 15 or more years thereafter.
 
"... this jet will be eye watering" I sort of agree :)
New Report Details What 31 US Air Force Pilots Who Flew the F-35 Really Think
Air Force Gen. Herbert “Hawk” Carlisle, commander of Air Combat Command, this week declared the F-35A fighter jet ready for combat. While many pundits and politicians have questioned the worth of this jet, the only people who know the ground truth are the pilots themselves.

A total of 174 U.S. pilots currently have been trained to fly Lockheed Martin’s F-35A Lightning II. The Heritage Foundation recently
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of these former F-15C, F-15E, F-16C, and A-10 pilots. Each expressed a high degree of confidence in the F-35A, their new fifth-generation platform.

Here are nine insights gleaned from those conversations:

1. Even with developmental restrictions that limit the F-35A’s responsiveness and ability to maneuver, every U.S. fighter pilot interviewed would pick the F-35A over his former jet in a majority of air-to-air (dogfight) engagement scenarios they could face.

2. A former F-15C instructor pilot said he consistently beat his former jet in mock dogfights.

3. A former F-16C instructor—and graduate of the Air Force Weapons Instructor Course of “Top Gun” fame—said the jet is constrained on how tight it can turn (G-limited) now. But even so, the rudder-assisted turns are incredible and deliver a constant 28 degrees of turn a second. When the Air Force removes the restrictions, this jet will be eye watering.

4. Three former F-16CJ Wild Weasel instructor pilots, those tasked with attacking surface-to-air missile sites, said a single F-35A can find and attack SAM sites faster and more effectively than three F-16CJ fighters working together.

5. The F-35A’s radar effectively can shut down enemy fighter and surface-to-air radars without those adversaries becoming aware they are being electronically attacked. Coupled with stealth, this jet is all but invisible to enemy radars.

6. A former A-10 instructor pilot said the situational awareness aids associated with the sensor suite of the F-35A allowed pilots to execute close air support missions as well or better than the A-10 in low-threat environments. The F-35A is the only multirole platform capable of conducting close air support in high-threat environments.

7. The research and development that went into the stealth skin of the F-35A removed the high-maintenance and sortie-limiting requirements associated with the radar-absorbing skin of the F-22, F117, or B-2. Stealth does not limit the F-35A’s ability to fly multiple combat or training sorties each day.

8. Bringing all the tactical sensors of the F-35A into a single display (sensor fusion) is still not optimized, and most pilots complained of “ghosts” or multiple displayed contacts for the same threat.

9. In full production, the F-35A is projected to cost less than the four-plus generation Eurofighter Typhoon, the French Rafale M, or the latest version of the F-15K Strike Eagle. It will outperform those jets and every other four-plus generation fighter in an air-to-surface role, and none of them would fare well against it in an air-to-air engagement.

Concurrent development of the F-35A certainly has had its challenges, and the risks for delays and cost overruns should have been factored into the acquisition process. They were not.

Component, sensor, and airframe development were (and still are) all happening at the same time, and even small changes in the weight, size, performance, and schedule of any component could affect the weight, size, performance, and schedule of the entire system.

The biggest single factor in keeping the program on time and under budget is effective, stable leadership. That leadership is now in place and the United States is on the precipice of delivering arguably the freshest, most advanced fighter technology ever fielded.

The gains and contracting lessons gleaned through concurrent development of the F-35A program are significant. The Pentagon needs to apply them to every major acquisition program for technology and systems that are susceptible to fielding obsolescence.
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