F-35 Joint Strike Fighter News, Videos and pics Thread
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Brumby
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No doubt the F-35 is an excellent aircraft just from the various reports of pilots sharing their experience in flying it. However the main utility I believe is the transformational nature of the platform which I think is deeply unappreciated to its effect in the battlespace. I can think of a number of reasons, including :
(a) A multiplier effect on legacy aircrafts. Using datalinks (MADL/BACN/Link16), the F-35's will be able to provide its sensor fusion situational awareness to legacy aircrafts within the mix force structure. This will compress the OODA loop. Studies and exercises have demonstrated the utility of SA in multiplying kill ratios.
(b)Real time information will be pushed to the outer edge of the battlespace ensuring for the first time operational and tactical picture is in alignment. A God's eye view in driving optimal decision making in force deployment, resource utilisation, and to tactics execution across air, sea and land .
(c)Potential to create a networked web of mini awacs in c2 utilisation and to provide redundancy in the event of satellite outage.
(d)Potential to create extended battlespace with allied forces with the F-35 being the common enabler through its sensor fusion capabilities in linking confederated systems.
Believe it my Friend please do
For A2A combat possible i don't say yes, very close depends some elements you don't have right now ... but for bombing in stealth missions seems no better with arrangements of the weapons bay i don' t see a bomb of 1 t fit in the J-20 weapons bay close F-22 and F-35A/C carry it, even for the T-50 with last view " only " 6 AAM seems and same really no sure 1 t bombs fit in the weapons bay.
In no stealth missions F-35 variants get a payload of 8/9 t max really possible normaly J-20/T-50 also or a little more they are more big.
But sure J-20 and T-50 get avery long range more as F-35A ( C a litte better, B inferior ) which remains very decent and better as F-16/18 he replace and with AV-8 and A-10 a difference !
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I guess my OODA loop speculation might be somewhere in the ballpark.
Driven by information, a pilot executes the fifth-generation OODA loop in the same manner as the fourth-generation version, with a few key differences. No longer are the pilot’s eyes his primary means to gathering information nor maneuverability his primary tool for executing the OODA loop, as it was in a one-on-one dogfight. Today’s fighter pilot uses aircraft sensors to collect information and modern tactics to execute the OODA loop as a coordinated flight. Fighters have always flown missions together with wingmen, but an F-35 pilot can maximize the capability of his flight by coordinating with his wingmen like never before. This coordination enables the fifth-generation OODA loop to operate at a rapid pace, generating a new level of effectiveness in both air-to-air and air-to-ground missions.
Designed to gather critical information to feed the OODA loop, the F-35 uses a suite of the most advanced sensors in the world. These sensors include advanced radar, infrared search and track (IRST), an electronic-warfare suite, and advanced data-links. Unique sensor-fusion algorithms integrate these sensors with advanced weapons and tactics to create an OODA loop that no fourth-generation fighter can match.
Driven by information, a pilot executes the fifth-generation OODA loop in the same manner as the fourth-generation version, with a few key differences. No longer are the pilot’s eyes his primary means to gathering information nor maneuverability his primary tool for executing the OODA loop, as it was in a one-on-one dogfight. Today’s fighter pilot uses aircraft sensors to collect information and modern tactics to execute the OODA loop as a coordinated flight. Fighters have always flown missions together with wingmen, but an F-35 pilot can maximize the capability of his flight by coordinating with his wingmen like never before. This coordination enables the fifth-generation OODA loop to operate at a rapid pace, generating a new level of effectiveness in both air-to-air and air-to-ground missions.
Designed to gather critical information to feed the OODA loop, the F-35 uses a suite of the most advanced sensors in the world. These sensors include advanced radar, infrared search and track (IRST), an electronic-warfare suite, and advanced data-links. Unique sensor-fusion algorithms integrate these sensors with advanced weapons and tactics to create an OODA loop that no fourth-generation fighter can match.
Brumby
Major
In post #3229, there was posted an interview with an air force officer involved in the F-35 program, and below is a relevant excerpt to address your question :
Have you ever seen a tank that jumps like a horse?
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Well you know what they say about opinions?, and yours is in DIRECT CONFLICT with USAF, Marines, USN, and each of our partners, in addition to each and every F-35 pilot currently checked out and flying test or operational missions.
Now then, there are a few vocal, il-informed, and down right ignorant folks who are in complete and total agreement with you??? You my brother have the advantage over each of them, in that you are member, in good standing of the finest Military Forum on the planet, the SDF. So I would suggest IMHO that the most intelligent course of action for you my brother, is to get yourself in line with the very well informed, well educated, operationally informed by the performance of the actual aircraft, folks who really do know what it takes to design/develop/build what is becoming one of the most amazing tactical aircraft ever to serve??
Its always best "dtulsa" when you are putting your hard work and time into a post, that you strive to "learn" where the people with a "dog in the fight" stand, and stand with them! Those with NO skin in the game love to voice their il-informed opinions, which sadly will go on the internet for all to see and form an "opinion" of you? I would encourage you to strive to maintain the accuracy and good will that SDF is known for.
and my sincere apology for being so frank, but I really do believe your are trying to put forth an "honest opinion". I have done a complete 180 on my thinking regarding the F-35 since I began posting, due to the kind and consistant informed opinions of Mr. Jeff Head, BD POPEYE, Mr. Brumby, Engineer, etc, etc,.