F-35 Joint Strike Fighter News, Videos and pics Thread

navyreco

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delft

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Found today in Marine Forum:
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Italy reportedly has cut orders for US-manufactured F-35B and F-35C combat aircraft … no revised numbers available yet, however, the navy may still hope for its planned 22 F-35B STOVL aircraft, as otherwise aircraft carrier CAVOUR won’t have an air wing once ageing Harrier are phased out.
Has Italy a flattop that can use F-35C's? I suppose this is a mistake for F-35A but it is not encouraging.
 

Scratch

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The only other italian carrier in service is the Gabrialdi, wich is smaller than the Cavour. I'm pretty sure "C" is a mistake, as in other articles I have seen the "A" version mentioned for the airforce.
But talk of Italy having to find a place to safe money in it's budget has been around and the new fighter buy was mentioned before.
 

navyreco

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The big decision is for today it seems like

Defence ministers are recommending that the Government scrap its previous decision to back a conventional aircraft carrier and jets - in favour of a Labour plan for jump-jet fighters and ships.

The Prime Minister is being asked to act after the costs of converting the carrier to carry Joint Strike Fighters trebled to £1.8billion.

Philip Hammond, the Defence Secretary, requested an an emergency meeting with Mr Cameron today to seek final decision.

It will cost more than £250 million to reverse the work already done, according to defence industry sources.

While an embarrassing U-turn, this is substantially less than it would cost to push ahead with the conversions, which could also delay the carrier programme until as late as 2027.
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Inst

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For air supremacy roles, the F-35 is wholly inadequate. The US will have to hope that its EW superiority will be sufficient to protect against PAK-FAs and J-20s, while waiting for sixth-generation fighters and UCAVs to arrive.

Yes, there's the F-22, but there's only 186 of them, and the paint is defective due to Lockmart's corner cutting.
 

Air Force Brat

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For air supremacy roles, the F-35 is wholly inadequate. The US will have to hope that its EW superiority will be sufficient to protect against PAK-FAs and J-20s, while waiting for sixth-generation fighters and UCAVs to arrive.

Yes, there's the F-22, but there's only 186 of them, and the paint is defective due to Lockmart's corner cutting.

185, and paint or no paint, if the Raptor wants you, you're dead! In fact they should paint em bright orange and build 1000 of em. Forget the Thunder Hogg. It is fast, it is stealthy, and its awesome air to air, if you read Dr. Songs original paper posted on the J-20 thread, he loves the Raptor, and He's right it took a long time, some of it is old school, but it is fast, the only bird at present with real supercruise, forget ucavs, do you really want those things flying around carrying nukes, sorry I'm just sayin! Look at the RQ 170, why do you think the Air Force is going back to U-2s [AGAIN]. But given the political clout of the Army, Navy, and Marines, the Air Force just doesn't seem to get the lessons we learned in WWII, Korea, and Vietnam, Air Superiority is not an OPTION, but don't forget to bring your own air. The Air Force canceled the emergency O2 system because it weighed 35 lbs. Really, the F-35 is exactly what the other services want, and honestly in time, it will likely be a fine replacement for the F-16. But really, cancel the F-22 to build this?
 

Inst

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Paint issues means that the F-22 had extraneous maintenance cost due to defective paint; Lockmart couldn't get the costs done right, so they opted for cheap and defective paint to keep production costs on track while increasing the total ownership costs.

I read, however, that recently they're retrofitting the F-22 with paint based on the F-35's RAM coatings, so that issue should be resolved.
 

Equation

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Anybody know about this guy name "Greg_P" who wrote this article. I mean is he credible and legit (just curious)?

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Air Force Brat

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Paint issues means that the F-22 had extraneous maintenance cost due to defective paint; Lockmart couldn't get the costs done right, so they opted for cheap and defective paint to keep production costs on track while increasing the total ownership costs.

I read, however, that recently they're retrofitting the F-22 with paint based on the F-35's RAM coatings, so that issue should be resolved.

Well Inst. the F-22 is a very, very expensive aircraft, and while stealth coatings continue to improve, the Raptor has not been hindered in its war gaming with F-15s etc, etc, it will come out on top of one on one, two on one, etc pairings. Compared to the far less capable F-35, the Raptor remains a bargain, UCAVs are really not capable of defending themselves against an aircraft such as the F-22, and if the US economy doesn't improve, there will never be a sixth gen fighter, our best option at present would be to relight, Raptor production in order to get the line back together and running. The F-35 has so many issues with cracking bulkheads ,burning its tail feathers of etc, etc, we may never get this thing in to full scale production. It is basically a jazzed up F-16, stealthy, with lots of power, and a "fantastic weapons pak", it is also heavy, slow, HOT, and loud. The Raptor remains the standard for fifth gen aircraft, the F-35 is far less stealthy, not supermanueverable, and will not super cruise, and IMHO not a true fifth gen. Brat
 

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Some news here, again.
Israel will put some of it's own missiles into the F-35. Not really a suprise, and to be honest, I exspected that there would be even more israeli stuff in it. For startes, I thought they'd put their Python-5 missile there. That "Stunner" is probably going to be the Derby follow-up anyway. Or is that actually in the class of the P-5?

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Israeli F-35s to carry indigenous missiles
By: Arie Egozi Tel Aviv - 8 hours ago

The Israeli air force's Lockheed Martin F-35 stealth fighters will be armed with a mix of US- and Israeli-made weapon systems, sources have confirmed.

"At least one main weapon system" for the nation's conventional take-off and landing F-35As will be of Israeli origin, sources related to the issue said on 17 April. The Israeli air force has previously expressed its wish to equip the type with a nationally-developed new-generation air-to-air missile.
One potential candidate is Rafael. The company is already working on a new "Stunner" missile as part of the "David's Sling" rocket interceptor, being developed in cooperation with Raytheon. The same type could also be adapted for use as an air-to-air weapon.

The delivery of a first batch of around 20 F-35s to the Israeli air force is expected in early 2017. Negotiations on a further contract for 20-25 additional aircraft is expected to begin next year.
While the first batch of aircraft will carry the integral electronic warfare system being supplied under the Lockheed-led Joint Strike Fighter programme, it is expected that this will later be "enhanced" by additional units developed in Israel.
 
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