F-35 Joint Strike Fighter News, Videos and pics Thread
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Likely was, and if he's ticked because of the RAMPs on QE, and the B instead of the C, I'm in with him!
Now having said that, I love the QE, and I could live with the B, but I believe that while the QE and B model will make a fine team no doubt, they missed the Awesomeness that would have resulted in a Cat Launched C model, they choose the wrong platform on both fronts, but as my ole Daddy used to say???
"Go with what ya Got".
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Sir Nick Harvey was MOD from 2010-2012.
In the 2010 Defense Review, the UK announced that is was likely that only one carrier would be in commission at a time, and that they would have arrestor systems and catapults.
It did not make sense to build two and have one active. Completely convoluted thinking IMHO. Typical liberal solutions that do not take into account the long term impact of viability.
At the same time, most of us applauded the cats and traps decision and figured a future more conservative administration in the UK would ensure that both were operational. We knoew it would mean the F-35C, E-2Ds, etc.
But within two years they decided that the plan was going to be too costly and on Myy 10, 2012, they announced that they would revert back to theplan of both carriers being CATOBAR and to purchase the F-35B.
So yes, this man was deeply involved with all of that.
His current comments do sound sour grapes to me.
He is dissing the entire F-35 and not just the "Bravo" version. I am sure he felt that the cost of such an aircraft, B or C, caused him grief in trying to come up with a viable plan for the carriers...when what they needed was the grit and fortitude to simply do what was right for their nation.
As it is, the QE's will be very formidable carriers with a couple of squadrons of F-35Bs, and in company with a couple of Daring Type 45 destroyers, Duke Type 23 (later to be Type 26) FFGs, and Astute SSNs.
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has been taken off their wish list.
White House officials on Monday sought to tamp down speculation that King Salman of Saudi Arabia canceled his attendance at Camp David when the U.S. made clear that his country would not be permitted to buy F-35s.
“We do not and never anticipated this to be a summit that only focused on one capability, like the F-35, for instance,” said Ben Rhodes, the deputy National Security Advisor to Obama.
“What we’re focused on is the capabilities that are most relevant to the current security challenges that the GCC (Gulf Cooperation Council) faces,” Rhodes said in a conference call with other administration officials.
“So, I think it would be a mistake to say that there was some list of very finite capabilities that were the only things on the table here,” Rhodes said, but discussions will continue on the Gulf states’ security needs.
Saudi Foreign Minsiter Adel al-Jubeir also denied that the F-35 or U.S. policy on Iran were factors in King Salman’s absence.
“This is not related in any way, shape or form to any disagreement between the two countries,” al-Jubeir said. “I think this idea that this is a snub because the king did not attend is really off base.”
Rhodes said that the security of the Gulf states was a “core interest” of the U.S., and “we are prepared to use all elements of our power to back up our commitment to that core interest.”
At Camp David, “there will be a discussion of a range of capabilities with respect to ballistic missile defense, with respect to cyber capabilities, with respect to countering terrorism, and the types of asymmetric threats that countries in the region are facing,” Rhodes said.
On the F-35s, Robert Malley, the National Security Council’s Mideast coordinator, said the summit was never meant to present the Gulf states with a check list on weapons.
“I think they understood this is not a case of the GCC countries coming with a shopping list and we’d have to tick off those of the items that they wanted that we would agree on,” Malley said.
Colin Kahl, the National Security Advisor to Vice President Joe Biden, noted that the U.S. has already sold vast amounts of advanced weaponry to the Gulf states, and the sale of F-35s at this time should not be a drawback.
“This administration has worked extraordinarily closely with the Gulf states to make sure that they had access to state-of-the-art armaments,” Kahl said.
The F-35 might not be on the table, “but keep in mind under this administration we moved forward on a package for the Saudis that will provide them the most advanced aircraft in the region,” Kahl said.
“The Emiratis fly the most advanced in the world. They’re more advanced than the ones our Air Force flies. Taken as a whole, the GCC last year spent nearly $135 billion on their defense. The Saudis spent more than $80 billion. Taken in comparison, the Iranians spent something like $15 billion on their defense,” Kahl said.
– Richard Sisk can be reached at [email protected]
This is big? LM is probably mad. But makes Israel feel better, maybe they'll buy more now.
Jura The idiot
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I wonder if he's been "an F-35 detractor" (who are pretty common
for example I've heard of a Senator from Arizona ...) and now I found what he's said some time ago:source:
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ma déjà vu, Ami FORBIN: https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/f-...os-and-pics-thread.t5796/page-253#post-340610
30 hours, and one SDF page, old déjà vu LOL
Until other 5th gen fighter jets become available (as in PAK-FA or FC-31), there simply isn't any reason to sell F-35s to Saudi. It's not just about making Israel feel better, but only providing such advanced capability to nations America trusts.
Mais pas vuma déjà vu, Ami FORBIN: https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/f-...os-and-pics-thread.t5796/page-253#post-340610
30 hours, and one SDF page, old déjà vu LOL