F-22 Raptor Thread

b787

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The information on the N-011M Bars radar is known in the public arena and the facts that I described is generally not disputed. You can certainly argue that the UAC is referring to a secretive full fledge AESA that somehow had magically appeared and introduced into service. There is no corroborating evidence that such a Russian AESA exist and if you have feel free to share it.

Btw, the announcement only mentioned that the Su-30SM two-seat fighter is equipped with active phased array radar. You are making the jump in concluding that it is AESA. It is factually true that the N-011M features a phased array antenna.
The Su-30SM two-seat fighter is supermaneuverable, equipped with active phased array radar, thrust vectoring engines and canard surfaces.
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i quoted you United Aircraft Corporation, they say AESA.

And yes the Russians have secrets, Tikhomirov makes the radar for the Su-30SM, but they do not say what radar it is, the Su-30MK is for export and has an AESA radar variant but Tikhomirov says they have an X band AESA radar too for multirole fighters


X-band AESA is intended for radar systems of advanced multifunctional fighters. AESA is implemented on the domestic hardware components on the base of GaAs nanoheterostructures and advanced antenna system technologies with electronic beam scanning. AESA provides for high energy efficiency and a wide range of the beam shapes and operation mode controls. The unification of structural components and selected engineering solutions make it possible to develop antenna arrays for upgrading aircraft radars and AAD complexes on the base of the developed AESA.
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So yes you can not believe the Su-30Sm is in Syria with an AESA and perhaps it is there to tested against potential rival aircraft like F-22
 

FORBIN

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N-011M Bars is a PESA radar on all reports i have read.
IIRC Russians have build and are not in service only 2 AESA : Phazotron Zhuk AE and for T-50 MIRES/N036 Byelka a system in fact 2 different radars in the nose and wings.

Now B787 you believe what you want ...


Brumby good explanations but APG-81 have clearly less modules 1200 as APG-77 1956 a more big nose for the F-22 can host a more big radar.
But AN/APG-63(V)3 with a 1500 modules get same deetction range as APG-81 ( inferior to APG-77, logic ).

Thinking electric power is the reason ?
 
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Brumby

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APG-81 have clearly less modules 1200 as APG-77 1956 a more big nose for the F-22 can host a more big radar.
I am aware that APG-81 has lesser modules at 1676 vs APG-77 at 1956, a 16 % difference. However it should also be noted that there is at least 10 years difference between the two in introduction. I am assuming even though APG-81 has lesser module count, its performance is partly compensated by better quality T/R modules, greater efficiency from design and better antenna gain from layout. For example, APG-81 has 3350 modules density per square metre as opposed to APG-77 of 3000 modules per square metre. This reflects improvement in packaging technology over that period.

But AN/APG-63(V)3 with a 1500 modules get same deetction range as APG-81 ( inferior to APG-77, logic ).

Thinking electric power is the reason ?
It should be noted that APG-63 is made by Raytheon and APG-81 by NG. There would be a series of things that could contribute to the performance difference (besides module count) such as T/R quality, design layout, transmit and receive losses. In terms of power output, I would suspect that both would be using up to-date comparable technology. If the basis of your comparison is based on detection range, I would be cautious for apple like comparison since range can be greatly affected by probability of detection, dwell time and search area.
 

Hyperwarp

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And you are surprised by all those UFO sightings in the US? :D

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An F-22 Raptor from Tyndall AFB, Fla., takes off from Nellis AFB, Nev., during Red Flag 16-1, Feb. 5, 2016. Tyndall Airmen are honing their skills with three weeks of exercise training alongside squadrons from around the world. (U.S. Air Force photo by Senior Airman Alex Fox Echols III/Released)

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An F-22 Raptor from Tyndall AFB, Fla. flies over Nellis AFB, Nev., during Red Flag 16-1, Feb. 5, 2016. Integration is key at Red Flag, and Tyndall’s F-22s and Airmen join more than 130 aircraft and 3,000 personnel training during the exercise. (U.S. Air Force photo by Senior Airman Alex Fox Echols III/Released)

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90th Fighter Squadron first combat-operational F-22 Raptor unit to use AIM-9X advanced Sidewinder

Alaska - Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson's 90th Fighter Squadron officially became the first combat-operational F-22 Raptor unit to equip an F-22 with an Air Intercept Missile-9X, March 1.
The increased lethality of the AIM-9X coupled with the F-22's capabilities combine into a much more effective fighting unit, said Chief Master Sgt. Chuck Jenkins, 3rd Wing Weapons Manager.

"This has been in the inventory for the Air Force and Navy for some years; it's nothing new to the military," Jenkins said. "But to put it on the Ferrari of aircraft - the F-22, the most advanced aircraft we have - it gives the pilots more maneuverability, larger range, and it's a much faster missile.
"Giving that to a combat commander downrange really increases his capabilities."

Air Force Lt. Col David Skalicky, commander of the 90th Fighter Squadron said the AIM-9X worked flawlessly in its first flight today.

"Every aspect about this missile, it's a huge capability increase in all facets," Skalicky said. "We can employ it in more scenarios, at greater range, and reach edges of the envelope we would have had a more difficult time reaching with the AIM-9M.

"Similar to how the F-22 is a generation beyond the fighters that came before it, the 9X is a generation beyond the previous Sidewinder missiles we used before. It's a huge advance in lethality for the F-22."

Path to the flightline
With the support of the 673rd Logistics Readiness Squadron and Communication Squadron, 3rd Munitions, 3rd Maintenance, and 3rd Aircraft Maintenance Squadron, weapons Airmen created a multi-organizational hub from which Airmen from the 525th and 90th Aircraft Maintenance Units alike came together to finish the parts needed to adapt the AIM-9X to the F-22 ahead of schedule, Jenkins said.

"We sent a small team to Nellis [Air Force Base] to get a small taste of what's coming," Jenkins said. "We brought that knowledge back and staged that team in a consolidated area. We gained proficiency by doing that. Nellis let us borrow two of their [parts] and we started last week getting these load crews through our weapons standardization - and we've got 10 load crews out of our 28 right now already done within a week."

After the load crews are certified to load AIM-9Xs onto F-22s, they have to maintain their certification on a monthly basis, Jenkins said.

Behind the weapons crews, Jenkins listed off nearly a dozen supporting agencies who provided crucial support to the mission.

"3rd Maintenance Squadron's Low Observable Flight was critical in making the timeline for the internal structure modification inside these launchers," Jenkins said. "Precision-guided munitions section were tasked with a software upgrade on this that come down about two weeks ago, and they had to work through some serious speed bumps to get this done, last Friday in order to get this loaded for today.

"There's a big bubble of people, no single person made this happen."
The arrival of the AIM-9X to the F-22 very well may signal a new era in Air Force airpower.
"This missile makes the most lethal combat aircraft the world has ever seen even more capable. It's a giant enhancement to the already formidable F-22 arsenal," Skalicky said. "We've invested a lot of resources getting this missile to the combat Air Force, and now it's finally here."

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