F-22 Raptor 5th Generation Stealth Fighter

Re: F-22 Raptor: The New Threat to the PLAAF

well, the f-22 advantage is steath, not much more. alot of its innovaitions like liquid crystal display, hms, tvc were already on russian planes years ago.
if the chinese can put plasma on a j-11 or j-10, that may even the plain.

Re: F-22 Raptor: The New Threat to the PLAAF

MiG Leader, far as I know, only the Aussies have been able to detect and track the older F-117. But the F-117 is light years behind stealth capabilities of the F22 and I believe the F35. The one F-117 lost in 1999 was brought down by AAA for reasons which I will not discuss.

Re: F-22 Raptor: The New Threat to the PLAAF

the f-22 is only semi stealth, not full like the f-117. the means used to detect an f-117 can be aplied to an f-22 fairly easily.

Re: F-22 Raptor: The New Threat to the PLAAF

Hello MiG Leader


Not sure where you are getting that info but this is how the US airpower and stealth breaks down

parcial stealth

F/A-18E/F
B-1B Lancer (Everyone here calls them BONES)
SR-71 (Retired)

very stealthy

F-117A
F-35A/B/C

Lowest Radar Cross section

B-2A
F/A-22

In fact, out of all of these aircraft, the only one I have never seen is the SR-71. I took my wife and mother to see an airshow and was surprised to see a B2 do a few passes. But the B2 and the F22 are the stealthiest aircraft we have. Actually, the Northop F-23 was even more stealthy than the F22 but Lockheed won for various other reasons.

Re: F-22 Raptor: The New Threat to the PLAAF

Rather than trying to build manned aircraft to counter the F/A-22, I think you'd better off investing in UAV technology.

Human pilots require a lot of training, then they quit and join a civilian airline. You won't have that problem with mass produced attack UAV's. Plus programmers & R&D staff don't require 20/20 vision.

Re: F-22 Raptor: The New Threat to the PLAAF

there is no way to determine true stealth, there are radars availible that can easily find an f-22, but to guide a missle to it is a different matter. the chinese may be able to develop a missle that uses ground based anti stealth radar to home on its enemy.

Re: F-22 Raptor: The New Threat to the PLAAF

The performance of the F/A-22 is just astounding. The Raptor will utterly dominate the skies of the 21st century just as the F-15 Eagle has done for the past 30 years.

Re: F-22 Raptor: The New Threat to the PLAAF

No
No
No
No AND HELL NO!

There is a new cold war already in the making, the F-22 will live for maybe 50 years and will be gone, China will come up with something better, there is a demand for it, I really wouldn't underestimate China if I were you, China's nuclear program is a fine example

Russia didnt help but China had a bomb by 64', nice...

Re: F-22 Raptor: The New Threat to the PLAAF

We had a bomb by 1945.

Re: F-22 Raptor: The New Threat to the PLAAF

exactly, did American officals think that just because the bomb can give America superiority over the world??? HELL NO!

America worked hard and even harder as the Russians had the bomb in 49' and H-bomb had in 53'

Now, America MUST work hard to upgrade the Raptor or else the J-XX will overtake the Raptor, China is too willing to get what she wants...

Remember what China did with the Ilyushin-28 back in the 60s'?