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These are LARGE frigates at 7,200 ton displacement.
They are relatively well armed, but clearly are not planning to be used for area anti-air coverage of any sort...nor would they be suited for any environment where saturation missile attacks are expected without having a Sachsen class (or other similarly capable allied vessel) anti-air vessel close at hand.
Having said that, these are going to be very capable vessels with good stealth characteristics.
1 x 127mm gun (capable of extended range munitions)
2 x 27mm auto-cannons (remotely controlled)
5 x 12.7mm machine gun turrets (remotely controlled)
2 x 12.7mm heavy machine guns
8 x RBS 15 Mk 4 missiles (Sea/Land Attack)
2 x RAM CIWS missile launchers (21 missiles each)
2 x NH-90 Helicopters
Four are on order with two building simultaneously at the Thyssen/Krupp shipyard and the Luerssen Shipyard.
This first one is the Baden-Wuettenberg, F222. The second is the Nordrhein-Westfallen, F223. They will be followed by the Sachsen-Anhalt , F224, and Rheinland-Pfalz, F225
The four will replace the four remaining Bremen Class frigates that were commissioned between 1982 and 1990.
Still, all in all, it would be nice to see these vessels, as large as they are, be equipped with at least an eight cell Mk-41 specifically for 32 ESSMs.
Here are some more nice pics of the Baden-Wuettenberg, F222, including a nice picture from aft showing the large hanger for two helos:
The F125s are a very interesting class of ship. They have a lot of the potential to be a capable, high intensity aegis type warship with its advanced radars and combat management system, however it instead only mounts guns, 8 AShMs, and ciws, as well as even a variety of non lethal weapons. No VLS.
That doesn't necessarily mean it is underarmed, because it's been designed from the outset for long term expeditionary lower intensity missions and deployment of special forces, etc.
It looks like it'll shape up to be a ship that does exactly what the German Navy wants it to do without too much highly cutting edge tech and without being overloaded with weapons. I expect the ship to have quite good command/control capabilities with lots of good quality and comfortable berths for sailors and SOF for long duration deployments.
That doesn't necessarily mean it is underarmed, because it's been designed from the outset for long term expeditionary lower intensity missions and deployment of special forces, etc.
It looks like it'll shape up to be a ship that does exactly what the German Navy wants it to do without too much highly cutting edge tech and without being overloaded with weapons. I expect the ship to have quite good command/control capabilities with lots of good quality and comfortable berths for sailors and SOF for long duration deployments.
By comparison, the Sachsen Class air-defense frigates displace 5,800 tons.
They carry a 32 cell Mk-41 for 24 Standard Missiles and 32 quad-packed ESSMs. They also have two CIWS RAM launchers with 42 short range missiles. They carry a 76mm gun and the two 27mm auto-cannons, and also house two ASW helicopters.
Here's how they look:
The Germans have three of these...Sachsen, F119, Hamburg, F220, and Hessen, F221, commissioned between 2003 and 2006.
They carry a 32 cell Mk-41 for 24 Standard Missiles and 32 quad-packed ESSMs. They also have two CIWS RAM launchers with 42 short range missiles. They carry a 76mm gun and the two 27mm auto-cannons, and also house two ASW helicopters.
Here's how they look:
The Germans have three of these...Sachsen, F119, Hamburg, F220, and Hessen, F221, commissioned between 2003 and 2006.
It is armed precisely as the Germans want it to be.
They do not intend these vessels to be placed in a position to have to defend themelves against saturation missile attacks.
but they will be able, with their two RAM systems, to defend themselves against lower intensity anti-surface threats.
With their stealth systems and electronics, and with those two RAM systems, I expect they will do very well for what they are designed for.
I agree on not being overloaded with high tech anti-air weapons...but I believe they will have cutting edge sensors, situational awareness, comms, etc. for what they are intended.
if they ever expected to be a part of a group that required defense against high tech saturation missile attacks, they would have a Sachsen with them, or other allied air defense like a Burke or Daring.
Similar to other European front line navies, the Germans will have 16 principle surface combatants made up of three Sachsen F-124 types, four Baden-Wuertenburg F-125 Types, four Bradenburg F-123 Types, and five Braunshweig, K-130 Types.
The UK will have 19 with six Daring Type 45s, and 13 Duke Tyep 23, or later, Type 26 FFGs.
The French will have 19 with two Horizon class, 11 FREMM Class and 9 Lafayettes.
The Italians will have 16 with 2 Horizon, 10 FREMM, and 4 Commandanti class.
Spain will have 19 with 5 Bazan class, 6 Santa Maria class, and eight BAM vessels.
The Dutch will have 10 with 4 De Zeven class, 2 Karl Dorman class, and 4 Holland class.
Norway will have 11 with 5 Nansen class and 6 Skjold class.
Sweden will have 7 with 5 Visby class and 2 Goerteborg class.
Portugal and Poland have a few, but they re relatively outdated and few in number.
That's a total of 116 surface combatants for the principle Western European nations.
The UK will have 19 with six Daring Type 45s, and 13 Duke Tyep 23, or later, Type 26 FFGs.
The French will have 19 with two Horizon class, 11 FREMM Class and 9 Lafayettes.
The Italians will have 16 with 2 Horizon, 10 FREMM, and 4 Commandanti class.
Spain will have 19 with 5 Bazan class, 6 Santa Maria class, and eight BAM vessels.
The Dutch will have 10 with 4 De Zeven class, 2 Karl Dorman class, and 4 Holland class.
Norway will have 11 with 5 Nansen class and 6 Skjold class.
Sweden will have 7 with 5 Visby class and 2 Goerteborg class.
Portugal and Poland have a few, but they re relatively outdated and few in number.
That's a total of 116 surface combatants for the principle Western European nations.
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to me, that's displacement wasted (but hey, Germany can afford it LOL) ... just compare to the Sachsen-class as Jeff did in #317
I noticed instead
on wiki ... do you know the current status of RBS-15 Mk. IV? wiki says
and using google a moment ago I found just some kinda promises from around 2010
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