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Top US general in Europe seeks more troops, warships to counter Russia
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The top U.S. military commander in Europe warned Tuesday of a growing Russian threat and is calling for more troops, warships and aircraft, saying he’s “not comfortable yet with the deterrent posture” of the American troop presence.

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, both head of U.S. European Command and the NATO Supreme Allied Commander-Europe, told the Senate Armed Services Committee that it will take more armored units and U.S. Navy guided-missile destroyers,
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and amphibious strike groups to stay ahead of Russia’s growing and modernizing forces.

“I’m not comfortable yet with the deterrent posture that we have in Europe in support of the
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,” Scaparrotti told SASC Chair Jim Inhofe, R-Okla., adding: “Of concern is my intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance capacity given that increasing and growing threat of Russia. I need more ISR.”

Scaparotti said he has requested two more destroyers for Naval Station Rota, Spain, where the U.S. Navy has four Arleigh Burke-class missile destroyers, which carry the Aegis weapon system. He said he needed better numbers and capabilities, “to stay head of, frankly, the modernization we see in Russia’s maritime forces.”

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this week departed the Black Sea — one of two such deployments there since the Russian seizure of three Ukrainian vessels and arrest of 24 sailors in late November at the Kerch Strait.

Congress funded the European Deterrence Initiative at $6.3 billion last year, and the Trump administration is due to unveil its FY20 federal budget request next week.

Scaparrotti’s
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included an armored division with a full combat aviation brigade, long-range artillery, engineers and sustainment brigades, as well as guided missile destroyers, a carrier strike group, and attack submarines.

On land, Scaparrotti said Tuesday he needed “greater capability … with my enablers,” and in the air, he was looking forward to the use of
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, as well as bombers, both to deter Russia and to be ready. “I’m looking forward to those being stationed permanently, in some numbers, in Europe as well,” he said.

Scaparrotti acknowledged strides over the last three years. There were three carrier-strike deployments — once to the
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for the first time in 20 years — and the U.S. has overcome logistical hurdles to move its forces around the continent.

“Three years ago, we were moving one brigade at a time, and challenged. A month ago, I moved four brigades — two armored, two [combat aviation brigades] — simultaneously. That’s progress,” he said.

The request comes as U.S. European Command has been scrambling to get naval capability since the U.S. Navy cut way back on its deployments there to focus on the Middle East and Pacific, according to Mark Cancian, of the Center for Strategic and International Studies.

“Destroyers can also provide missile defense. Four are now stationed at Rota, Spain, for that purpose, but the Navy wants to pull those out and use them elsewhere. So Scaparrotti is, in effect, arguing against the chief of naval operations,” Cancian said.

The U.S. Army has been rotating more troops through Germany and Eastern Europe, and Scaparrotti could have been expected to ask for the permanent stationing of an armored brigade in Europe.

Last year’s request for a full armored division, “would be a big ask,” as the Pentagon is trying to limit deployments, Cancian said, adding: “The administration does not want such a big force structure ask because it is constraining force expansion in order to fund modernization."
 

gelgoog

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The US keeps poking the bear on its own backyard.
I wonder what they would be saying had the Russian surface naval expansion not flopped so much because of the trade sanctions.
 

gelgoog

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Smaller countries near Russia (my included) aren't Russia's backyard.

How about Russians stop acting like mongoloids?

They aren't mongoloids but they learned from the mongols. You can't allow foreign powers to push you on your own turf.
Imagine if the Russians stationed a permanent fleet next to the US in Cuba or something like that. Six destroyers and a carrier.

The Russians have a different perspective. For them modern Ukraine is just an historical artifact of something which is in the Russian Empire's cultural, economic, and political sphere. I don't necessarily agree with them but I can understand their point of view.
 

Pmichael

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The US keeps poking the bear on its own backyard.
I wonder what they would be saying had the Russian surface naval expansion not flopped so much because of the trade sanctions.

It should you tell you everything that the Baltic States and other Eastern Europe countries are siding with the West and not Russia.

One of the reasons is that people like you calling sovereign states the backyard of Russia. It's the pure fear that the Russians are coming back.
 

taxiya

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Smaller countries near Russia (my included) aren't Russia's backyard.

How about Russians stop acting like mongoloids?
What does this word have anything to do with political debate? The debate certainly has nothing to do with the science of Anthropology or Human evolution.
By definition mongoloid refers to all east Asian population as a sub group of human. I must therefor ask you, what is the specific behaviour (act) of east Asian humans that should be stopped?

Your act is racist in nature, pretty much the reason that ethnic Russian minority in your country (11% of the population) or your neighbouring country are made stateless which constitutes racial discrimination and severe human right violation.
 
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Pmichael

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What here is done is a combination of strawman arguments after getting called out that sovereign states in Eastern Europe are not Russian backyard.

You can talk so much about Mudoro or racism it will not change the fact that pretty much all of Europe decided to go with the West and joining an alliance to defend themselves so they will never ever suffer Russian dictation and violence.
 

timepass

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German Chancellor Angela Merkel has endorsed the idea of a joint European aircraft carrier...

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The idea was suggested by her party’s leader, Annegret Kramp-Karrenbauer.

Annegret Kramp-Karrenbauer, the politician that succeeded Merkel last year as leader of the governing Christian Democratic Union in Germany, made the proposal in a weekend response to the French President’s proposals for European reform.

Germany and France are already working together on a future European combat aircraft.

“The next step could be to start on the symbolic project of building a common European aircraft carrier” to underline what the EU calls its global security role.

Merkel said Monday, according to Reuters, that “it’s right and good that we have such equipment on the European side, and I’m happy to work on it”.

It is currently unclear if this is a proposal for a jointly operated vessel or a common class, the latter however appears the least likely due to the cost.

In October 2018, the French Ministry of Defence launched an 18-month study for €40 million for the eventual future replacement of the French aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle beyond 2030.

A decision for the new carrier is scheduled to take place beyond 2025, and the future carrier is to remain in service until beyond 2080 and one of the proposals is pictured above.

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