Jura The idiot
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oh no I'm sorry Amigo Miragedriver
it was kind of "us too" activity, I guess
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Miragedriver
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No worry my firend
Very true amigo.
To me a carrier is a way of projecting navy power overseas. Brazil has no need for a carrier. Argentina could maybe justify it for patrolling the south Atlantic fishing grounds. However it could be done with smaller vessels and maritime patrol aircraft for a fraction of the price.
Basically it’s a way a county’s navy can say “hey, look how big mine is”.
Jura The idiot
General
if I had to defend the idea of a Brazilian aircraft carrier, I would say the carrier could be used to protect against an invasion of the less developed coastal areas more to the north, in particular north to the Equator ... now I thought of writing about the possibility of a retreat up the Amazon River as an unprecedented tactical maneuver but ... I would be unable to hold my laugh
Finland buys K9 howitzers from South Korea
Finland will purchase K9 Thunder 155 mm self-propelled howitzers from South Korea, the country's Ministry of Defence (MoD) confirmed on 17 February
According to the MoD announcement, Finnish defence minister Jussi Niinistö has approved the purchase of 48 former South Korean Army K9s at a cost of EUR146 million (USD155 million). The MoD stated this includes training, spares, and maintenance. The contract also includes options for the procurement of additional K9s, it added.
The move has been expected since the MoD announced in July 2016 it was beginning direct negotiations with South Korea to buy K9s. At the time, the MoD said the choice to pursue the K9 over other options on the market was due to price and the compatibility of the system with a conscription-based military. The Finnish Defence Forces (FDF) has been conducting trials of the K9 since late 2016, some of which Jane's witnessed.
Deliveries of the howitzers to Finland are due to begin during 2017 in order to begin staff training this year. Finnish conscripts are due to begin being trained on the K9 in 2019, while deliveries of all 48 systems are due to be completed by 2024. This timeline accords with previously released Finnish plans to declare initial operating capability with a new howitzer in 2020 and full operating capability in 2025.
Purchasing the K9 will enable Finland to phase out the majority of its old Soviet-designed artillery systems. Currently the FDF operates a number of Soviet-era and -calibre artillery pieces, including the towed 130 mm M-46, self-propelled 152 mm 2S5 Giatsint-S, towed 122 mm D-30, and self-propelled 122 mm 2S1 Gvozdika. The K9s are expected to supplement the FDF's existing NATO-calibre artillery pieces, including its towed 155 mm 155 GH 52 APU systems.
Speaking to Jane's on 20 February, an FDF source said that the K9s would be modified to accommodate the country's existing digital radios and Patria-made battlefield management system (BMS).
Finland will purchase K9 Thunder 155 mm self-propelled howitzers from South Korea, the country's Ministry of Defence (MoD) confirmed on 17 February
According to the MoD announcement, Finnish defence minister Jussi Niinistö has approved the purchase of 48 former South Korean Army K9s at a cost of EUR146 million (USD155 million). The MoD stated this includes training, spares, and maintenance. The contract also includes options for the procurement of additional K9s, it added.
The move has been expected since the MoD announced in July 2016 it was beginning direct negotiations with South Korea to buy K9s. At the time, the MoD said the choice to pursue the K9 over other options on the market was due to price and the compatibility of the system with a conscription-based military. The Finnish Defence Forces (FDF) has been conducting trials of the K9 since late 2016, some of which Jane's witnessed.
Deliveries of the howitzers to Finland are due to begin during 2017 in order to begin staff training this year. Finnish conscripts are due to begin being trained on the K9 in 2019, while deliveries of all 48 systems are due to be completed by 2024. This timeline accords with previously released Finnish plans to declare initial operating capability with a new howitzer in 2020 and full operating capability in 2025.
Purchasing the K9 will enable Finland to phase out the majority of its old Soviet-designed artillery systems. Currently the FDF operates a number of Soviet-era and -calibre artillery pieces, including the towed 130 mm M-46, self-propelled 152 mm 2S5 Giatsint-S, towed 122 mm D-30, and self-propelled 122 mm 2S1 Gvozdika. The K9s are expected to supplement the FDF's existing NATO-calibre artillery pieces, including its towed 155 mm 155 GH 52 APU systems.
Speaking to Jane's on 20 February, an FDF source said that the K9s would be modified to accommodate the country's existing digital radios and Patria-made battlefield management system (BMS).
Jura The idiot
General
google translation of
L’Europe peine à maintenir sa puissance navale
"The decline in formats is stabilizing
In the end, with a few exceptions, European fleets are only able to maintain their format and modernize their equipment. Overall, their tonnage is always downward. However, the curve seems to be flattening for several reasons. First, some naval forces have reached their low limit, under which they would no longer be able to fulfill the operational contracts set for them. Others, faced with the emergence or the reappearance of threats, have decided to halt the reductions in format, or even to strengthen their means. And there are countries that have a proactive policy of supporting their domestic industry, leading to significant orders. But it is clear that Europe is very far from having the naval power corresponding to its economic and political weight."
I post just the last paragraph here (I've read the Russian translation)
funny how the article shows the picture with the capability nonexistent now:
L’Europe peine à maintenir sa puissance navale
:
"The decline in formats is stabilizing
In the end, with a few exceptions, European fleets are only able to maintain their format and modernize their equipment. Overall, their tonnage is always downward. However, the curve seems to be flattening for several reasons. First, some naval forces have reached their low limit, under which they would no longer be able to fulfill the operational contracts set for them. Others, faced with the emergence or the reappearance of threats, have decided to halt the reductions in format, or even to strengthen their means. And there are countries that have a proactive policy of supporting their domestic industry, leading to significant orders. But it is clear that Europe is very far from having the naval power corresponding to its economic and political weight."
I post just the last paragraph here (I've read the Russian translation)
funny how the article shows the picture with the capability nonexistent now:
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Jura The idiot
General
google translation of
A400M : tension sur la ligne entre la Défense et Airbus
"While Airbus is demanding new negotiations on the additional costs of the A400M, the tension is palpable with the Ministry of Defense. Who appreciates not having no contact at the highest level since the departure of Marwan Lahoud.
It may be a detail, but a detail that speaks volumes. In the letter to Defense Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian calling for new negotiations on the additional costs of the A400M military transport aircraft, Denis Ranque and Tom Enders, respectively president and CEO of Airbus, A beautiful odd: the missive is in English, the European aircraft manufacturer having not bothered to translate it into French. "Not very elegant when we still ask for money," grins a cadre of the Defense. The Airbus letter refers, in particular, according to Reuters, of "significant risks to come" on a program which has already completely slipped financially, going from 20 billion euros to more than 30 billion, and calls for negotiations on penalties of Delays, certification procedures and incremental costs.
Beyond the lack of taste, the annoyance against Airbus is palpable within the Ministry of Defense. One, Airbus returns to the charge on the A400M, seven years after obtaining 3.5 billion euros of extension of the States customers following a first psychodrama. Two, the DGA no longer knows who to turn to on the Executive Committee of Airbus. "We had a contact at the highest level, the boss of the strategy and the international Marwan Lahoud." Since his departure, it's silent on the line, deplores a bailiff of the house.Who is our interlocutor? The message is that defense is no longer a priority at Airbus, and we may have to draw conclusions. "
Objective: 15 A400M
The department has grievances to present. "The problem is not the penalties of delay, which are in any case capped, and to say ridiculous," explains one to Challenges. What one wants are the airplanes which fly, with the good capacities Tactics. " The ministry wants to be able to count on 15 A400M fully operational as soon as possible. The Air Force currently has only 11 A400M, of which 7 are truly available, according to the Aviation Journal.
Certainly, undeniable progress on the development of tactical capabilities has been made. The first tactical capabilities of the aircraft (freight dumping, self-protection, operations on summary runways) were certified in summer 2016. A first certification for the parachuting of 30 soldiers by a side door was obtained in early 2017, The aim is to reach, in the long term, the figure of 116 paratroopers capable of jumping through two gates. Airbus is also conducting helicopter refueling tests with the A400M, a capability that has long been excluded due to aerodynamic problems. "The first tests are conclusive," he said. Above all, a solution was found to the problem of power transmission boxes of the engines, which rotted the year 2016: the A400M can now fly 150h between each control, against 20h before.
Alonso, last link
But the DGA was irritated by the promise of Airbus, not obliged, to deliver in 2016 six aircraft to the right standard (three new and three retrofits). Lastly, it reached only four last year, the last two arriving only in January, then mid-February 2017. "Until the end of December, Airbus had assured them that they would meet the deadlines, plague We can see that they will not be able to keep up the expected production rate. " Jean-Yves Le Drian is expected at the Orléans airbase at the beginning of March to welcome the arrival of the last six A400Ms, but, in a bad mood, the contingent of invitations to Airbus has been limited to the strict minimum.
The link between Airbus and the Defense seems now tenuous. It relies primarily on the boss of Airbus' military aircraft, Spaniard Fernando Alonso, the man who has restored a relationship of trust with the French client. The problem is that this flight test specialist, a well-known and appreciated engineer, suffers very badly, from concordant sources, the current climate at Airbus. "If he slams the door, it's a catastrophe," the Defense Ministry said. A message, addressed in good French."
A400M : tension sur la ligne entre la Défense et Airbus
:
"While Airbus is demanding new negotiations on the additional costs of the A400M, the tension is palpable with the Ministry of Defense. Who appreciates not having no contact at the highest level since the departure of Marwan Lahoud.
It may be a detail, but a detail that speaks volumes. In the letter to Defense Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian calling for new negotiations on the additional costs of the A400M military transport aircraft, Denis Ranque and Tom Enders, respectively president and CEO of Airbus, A beautiful odd: the missive is in English, the European aircraft manufacturer having not bothered to translate it into French. "Not very elegant when we still ask for money," grins a cadre of the Defense. The Airbus letter refers, in particular, according to Reuters, of "significant risks to come" on a program which has already completely slipped financially, going from 20 billion euros to more than 30 billion, and calls for negotiations on penalties of Delays, certification procedures and incremental costs.
Beyond the lack of taste, the annoyance against Airbus is palpable within the Ministry of Defense. One, Airbus returns to the charge on the A400M, seven years after obtaining 3.5 billion euros of extension of the States customers following a first psychodrama. Two, the DGA no longer knows who to turn to on the Executive Committee of Airbus. "We had a contact at the highest level, the boss of the strategy and the international Marwan Lahoud." Since his departure, it's silent on the line, deplores a bailiff of the house.Who is our interlocutor? The message is that defense is no longer a priority at Airbus, and we may have to draw conclusions. "
Objective: 15 A400M
The department has grievances to present. "The problem is not the penalties of delay, which are in any case capped, and to say ridiculous," explains one to Challenges. What one wants are the airplanes which fly, with the good capacities Tactics. " The ministry wants to be able to count on 15 A400M fully operational as soon as possible. The Air Force currently has only 11 A400M, of which 7 are truly available, according to the Aviation Journal.
Certainly, undeniable progress on the development of tactical capabilities has been made. The first tactical capabilities of the aircraft (freight dumping, self-protection, operations on summary runways) were certified in summer 2016. A first certification for the parachuting of 30 soldiers by a side door was obtained in early 2017, The aim is to reach, in the long term, the figure of 116 paratroopers capable of jumping through two gates. Airbus is also conducting helicopter refueling tests with the A400M, a capability that has long been excluded due to aerodynamic problems. "The first tests are conclusive," he said. Above all, a solution was found to the problem of power transmission boxes of the engines, which rotted the year 2016: the A400M can now fly 150h between each control, against 20h before.
Alonso, last link
But the DGA was irritated by the promise of Airbus, not obliged, to deliver in 2016 six aircraft to the right standard (three new and three retrofits). Lastly, it reached only four last year, the last two arriving only in January, then mid-February 2017. "Until the end of December, Airbus had assured them that they would meet the deadlines, plague We can see that they will not be able to keep up the expected production rate. " Jean-Yves Le Drian is expected at the Orléans airbase at the beginning of March to welcome the arrival of the last six A400Ms, but, in a bad mood, the contingent of invitations to Airbus has been limited to the strict minimum.
The link between Airbus and the Defense seems now tenuous. It relies primarily on the boss of Airbus' military aircraft, Spaniard Fernando Alonso, the man who has restored a relationship of trust with the French client. The problem is that this flight test specialist, a well-known and appreciated engineer, suffers very badly, from concordant sources, the current climate at Airbus. "If he slams the door, it's a catastrophe," the Defense Ministry said. A message, addressed in good French."