Europe Refugee Crisis

mr.bean said:

omg that's a sight to be seen. a free BMW for everyone from Angela Merkal!

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taxiya said:

The problem is EU is not a state in the legal sense, nor are some western countries able to stop other western countries from creating the mess in the first place, nor are the same western coutry able to keep a long-term strategy due to their own administration change (institutionalized regime change). Germany wasn't involved (actually reserved) in the recent regime change adventure in Syria, nor was Spain, nor the Scandinavians, nor Hungary, Croatia and Greec etc. but they have to bare the mess. The EU in its current form is a failure, the way out is two opposite alternatives, disolve it for good, or unite to be a true sovereign state, so one can be fully responsible for one's act whichever it may be.

The refugee crisis is just another manifestation of EU's fundamental fault like the finacial crisis.

Throwing back the refugees and illegal imigrants does not adress the root cause, let them in is just suicidal in the long run. And the Europeans are split (paralyzed from the neck) in choosing which way to go.

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mr.bean said:

omg that's a sight to be seen. a free BMW for everyone from Angela Merkal!

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Equation said:

If you are referring "everyone" as to the refugees (invaders according to others) I think they would rather have a free country free from the regime changing ways that has ravaged their country.

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Jura said:

I think a problem for your argumentation would occur if on a boat like above were individuals from a country unaffected by a war for example from Ghana or Ivory Coast

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taxiya said:

These are illegal immigrants for economy purposes, not refugees escaping from war. There being a huge number of illegal immigrants taking advantage of true refugees does not make the argument any weaker. Equation's argument was "recent regime change acts caused the refugee crisis".

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solarz said:

You mean Canada?

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Immigration officials in

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have been using DNA testing and ancestry websites to try to determine migrants’ nationality, according to the Canada Border Services agency.

The agency has not kept statistics on how often the tools had been applied, but they were being used on those who run afoul of the country’s immigration laws and “when other avenues of investigation have been exhausted,” a spokesperson for the CBSA told the Guardian.

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the story after speaking to two immigration lawyers whose clients had been investigated through DNA tests submitted to FamilytreeDNA.com.

The CBSA described the tools “as part of a suite of investigative techniques” used to ascertain a person’s identity.

“DNA testing assists the CBSA in determining identity by providing indicators of nationality thereby enabling us to focus further lines of investigation on particular countries,” the spokesperson said.

The agency said it had obtained consent from the migrants before their information was submitted to the sites but declined to offer more details. “The CBSA does not publicly discuss the mechanics of its investigative techniques in a public forum, as doing so could render them ineffective.”

Subodh Bharati, a lawyer, expressed concerns over the admission. He flagged the issue to media outlets earlier this year, after authorities cited DNA testing and an ancestry site to speculate that his client – a Liberian national who has lived in

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since the 1990s – was actually from Nigeria.

His client was asked to undergo the DNA test while in detention, as the threat of being deemed non-cooperative loomed, said Bharati. “Can a person really consent to giving his DNA while he’s in a maximum security prison?”

The agency’s actions have also raised concerns about the privacy of the data held by these sites. Bharati said he was aware of at least two people who had used FamilytreeDNA.com, including someone in the UK, who had been contacted by Canadian immigration officials.

Amid Liberia’s refusal to repatriate its nationals, the information from ancestry sites was now being used to argue his client should be deported to Nigeria – an argument that ignored the fact that ancestry does not always line up with nationality, said Bharati.

“My DNA would say that I’m from India but I was born in Canada,” he pointed out. “It’s so obvious that this can’t give anybody’s nationality, is there some other reason that they’re collecting DNA? I don’t know.”

He said he had heard of two other similar cases involving migrants in Canada, prompting broader questions over what measures were in place to protect people’s confidentiality. “What protocols are they following, if there are any?”

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, which has the authority to detain non-citizens deemed to be a flight risk, who pose a threat to public safety or whose identities cannot be confirmed.

A lack of transparency and oversight mars the system, resulting in what critics have described as a “legal black hole”. Since 2000,

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, including five who were thought to have died of natural causes and three by suicide. Several deaths have been attributed to unknown causes.

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FamilyTreeDNA said it had not worked directly with Canadian law enforcement. The company added in a statement to Reuters that it had “no knowledge of Canadian law enforcement or its border agency using the FTDNA platform for the purpose of gathering migrant DNA to determine nationality.”

Earlier this year the use of ancestry sites by authorities burst into view south of the border, after investigators in California said they had

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by comparing the suspect’s DNA to data gathered by genealogy websites. The former police officer Joseph DeAngelo, 72, has since been charged in connection with a dozen murders dating back as far as 1976.

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Jura said:

Germany: Chemnitz protests against immigration policy | Al Jazeera English
Published on Aug 31, 2018:

Protesters are gathering again as I write

by the way it's former Karl-Marx-Stadt LOL

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Thousands protest against far right at concert in Germany's Chemnitz
Updated 1830 GMT (0230 HKT) September 3, 2018

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