Does a hurriance have the strength to flip a supercarrier over??

bladerunner said:

Whats the process with serving on carriers Popeye. Once youve been posted onto one do you serve out your time on them?

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Ambivalent, answered the question to a point. Your rating determines how long you will spend on sea duty. Some rates sea duty is as short as three years. Some is as long as 5 years. For instance guys in Nuclear power have a sea shore rotation of 5 years at sea duty. And three years on shore duty.

In aviation fields in the USN these days more sea/shore rotation is 4 years at sea then three years on shore.

Hi guys,
to improve the debate....

video of russian CV kuznetsov in storm


video of us carrier in storm

gerboisebleue said:

Hi guys,
to improve the debate....

video of russian CV kuznetsov in storm

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Did not see that heavy of a sea state for the Russian. Looked like typical North Atlantic to me.

The Kitty Hawk sea state was somewhat more severe. I can't believe a helo was on the bow. Maybe it was PSed in. Looked to small to me.

bd popeye said:

Did not see that heavy of a sea state for the Russian. Looked like typical North Atlantic to me.

The Kitty Hawk sea state was somewhat more severe. I can't believe a helo was on the bow. Maybe it was PSed in. Looked to small to me.

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Nah, Air Bosses HATE helos. "Get that &£$%@£!!! palm tree off MY deck.....NOW". Ah yes, Air Bosses are so even tempered :-o

I believe the video of the Kuznetsov was taken in the Barents Sea. It has been around a while.

Now this one probably clenched the pilot's rectum.

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Now this one probably clenched the pilot's rectum.

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Amazing that that aircraft was not lost. But, as you watch the end of the video, where the carrier deck comes up out of the trough, you see the aircraft continuing on and gaining altitude.

Amazing...and yes, the crew on that aircraft, particularly the pilot and co-pilot, must have had quite the moment. That launch was timed all wrong.

Jeff Head said:

Amazing that that aircraft was not lost. But, as you watch the end of the video, where the carrier deck comes up out of the trough, you see the aircraft continuing on and gaining altitude.

Amazing...and yes, the crew on that aircraft, particularly the pilot and co-pilot, must have had quite the moment. That launch was timed all wrong.

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If you want more, make a habit of reading the Naval Safety Center web site. Use the link for aviation on the menu bar at the top. The "Photo of the Week" is usually a treat too.

back to the roots:
a nuclear powerd carrier need a lot of lead to safe the crew;
this is a lot of weight, concentrate in a small point.

With big waves those carrier could break - so you need a lot ot shipbuilding - technology, to level out the waves.
And a hurrican will have much more much bigger waves as you can see in the roughly northatlantic videos.

By the reason of safety the carriers would turn arround a hurricane, whenever they have the possibilty to do so.

Nah, Air Bosses HATE helos. "Get that &£$%@£!!! palm tree off MY deck.....NOW". Ah yes, Air Bosses are so even tempered :-o

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Maybe so but Air Bosses know that thye canno0t launch a single fixed wing aircrfat without that SAR angel(helo) in the air.

Sczepan said:

back to the roots:
a nuclear powerd carrier need a lot of lead to safe the crew;
this is a lot of weight, concentrate in a small point.

With big waves those carrier could break - so you need a lot ot shipbuilding - technology, to level out the waves.
And a hurrican will have much more much bigger waves as you can see in the roughly northatlantic videos.

By the reason of safety the carriers would turn arround a hurricane, whenever they have the possibilty to do so.

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Nope. In actual practice the USN sends it's ships out to sea to ride out hurricanes. It is safer there than in port. That is where that video taken from the JFK originated, it was outside Mayport riding out a hurricane.
I'v ridden a typhoon in a far smaller ship than a carrier. It was not fun, but nothing dangerous to the ship. You can't go topside most places because you would be washed overboard, and you can't work or sleep due to the ship's motion, some minor topside damage occurs, but even with green water hitting the bridge we were never in any danger of sinking. This was a 20,000 ton ship. The carrier shrugs off such weather. We envied them because they still had hot food and could sleep in such weather.