Sorry to hear that. I bet the conversation between you and them is interesting.
Sorry to hear that. I bet the conversation between you and them is interesting.
Yes. The US remains the most attractive for education. It's universities are top notch. No arguments to be made here. The amount and quality of raw talent that is produced in these universities are just so good.
China has the potential to replace US as a top education hub. But that involves de-politicizing Chinese University and curriculum. Sort of like SEZ, China has to create Special Educational Zones. Improvements in the quality of life led in Chinese cities and low expenditure of living will draw students.
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That is if they are still allowed to go there to study science and tech, trump has all banned Chinese students studying STEM, without access to STEM education i would expect enrollments to drop significantly, maybe biden will change that but the trust is broken and there is this climate of fear that you risk being arrested if you are a Chinese scientist doing phd research
I don't see many Chinese scientists doing research in the us in the future, the risk is just not worth it
I don't see many Chinese scientists doing research in the us in the future, the risk is just not worth it
Chinese universities and curriculum are much, much less politicised compared to what passes for american universities and colleges nowadays; to wit, we haven't seen a repeat of the Cultural revolution in China these past few decades and are unlikely to see anything compared to that in the decades to come whereas the US is in the grip of its own cultural revolution and hysteria.
As for the US as a top education hub, that is merely perception; american propaganda and marketing is world class so it makes sense that they would manage to convince the world that they possess the best education in the world. That is simply not true especially considering the many, many patents and innovations coming out of China this past decade and the projected years to come.
What US universities do is create a mixing space between capital and privilege and talent- where the privileged imbecile scions of wealthy americans get to hobnob with each other and where they can get first dibs at whatever innovations Joe Yang from China or Sergey from eastern europe, would happen to come up with. Stanford is a classic example.
Not to distract from topic, but Biden's and indeed any post trump president is going to need China more than China needs the US if the US is going to want to avoid civil war/revolution. Funding US deficits which is what china generously did post '08 is what the Us desperately needs otherwise, they're gonna look forward to weimar era hyperinflation and considering obama post '08 rewarded China with the pivot to Asia, i don't think President Xi is gonna be in the mood to be generous.
This is true. If there was a silver lining to Trump's presidency, it would be that Chinese all over the world have woken up to the US's ugly side. Speaking from experience, many chinese I know now realise the US is not the beautiful land of freedom and opportunity, instead a highly divided , racist and immoral society filled with morons. They no longer aspire to move to the US but instead hunker down in asia.
Even many people who used to hate China for being a one-party state are now realising that plutocracies like the US bring nothing to the table other than division, obstructionism and elite control of society.
I also think the US has overplayed its hand on the Xinjiang genocide fake news. I'm starting to see more and more people point that the people behind it are Adrian Zenz, ASPI and the US state dept.
I wonder how long they can keep up on this before it explodes on them like the Iraq WMD, or if Biden will stop this policy
I wonder how long they can keep up on this before it explodes on them like the Iraq WMD, or if Biden will stop this policy
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Exactly.
One more thing i would like to add to that, the point i keep making. The post second world era.
It was otto hahn and strassmann that discovered fission.
Teller & ulam made fusion possible.
Now it is now Musk who is giving them best space exploration method.
Ironically, none of them are exactly "american" , Yet US is the one taking all the advantages. People often forget the destruction left behind WW2 created series of chain reaction including industrial revolution, which US took full advantage of, because their infrastructure remained intact.
Power of money is amazing.
The thing is, it works in both ways. Hence, the "fair open" market policy, of course, with little twist of "national security",like we saw what happened to Japan's IC sector..
The sooner it blows up in there faces, the better since they have grown too arrogant and too complacent in that the consequence won’t reach them. But still it wouldn’t be long now
You'll notice something about these immigrants who moved to america and contributed to the sciences and research- they were all lauded and lionised for their work and accepted as Americans for the simply reason that they were caucasian and white. This follows the unofficial policy of the US to create a pan white 'american' culture with heavy anglo leadership and influence.You're not going to see this level of acceptance, access or lionisation from the hardworking engineering/science PhDs from China or the rest of Asia; oh no, white anglo culture mandates that asian migrants are relegated to lowly tech slave positions with their descendants either becoming bred out and anglicised or genetic dead ends via heavy anti asian male indoctrination in anglo american media.
In fact, you could say that the Anglo american elites are trying to recreate a new Roman Empire based on artificially constructed culture of 'whiteness' but are also being pulled in different directions by virtue signalling elites who have become infatuated with their african or arab lovers and pets and want a more subtle form of white supremacy by emphasising false notions of "multiculti" which are merely skin deep and insubstantial eg the "blacking" of certain film characters