Discussing Biden's Potential China Policy

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solarz

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I hate to disagree with you @solarz but.

Yes agreed except the but Trump didn't initiate the UK riots. I think he did as he was loosing the trade war.

Oh yes, he will bit in a different way. Ref your 1st statement about US still try to undermine China.

Will Trump received the third highest votes in history. So if that's not more, I don't know what is.

  1. An operation like HK last year takes more than 3 years to prepare, so it most definitely was in the works long before Trump came on stage.
  2. Oh I'm quite certain Biden will try to undermine China, but I don't believe he will continue the trade war, as it's clear to anybody with half a brain that it has been far more detrimental to the US than to China.
  3. It just means Americans are more polarized than ever. Both camps are utterly convinced the other side is evil incarnate.
 

solarz

Brigadier
Regarding that Reddit post, my opinion is this is lazy thinking, to the point it is just propaganda.

It is just some wish list, like people use when they go shopping in a supermarket.

Whether the United States continues their containment policy against China by itself or with allies, there are only certain actions it can do.

1. Start a trade war.

2. Start a tech war.

3. Increase propaganda.

4. Sell armaments to China's rivals.

5. Go to war against China.

Are there other options or possibilities that the Americans or together the Americans with allies will do?

None I can think of. None that I have read anywhere, including this forum.

Then we should ask ourselves what would be the likely result of each of those 5 possibilities and how probable will those 5 possibilities will happen.

Just my view, that is bullshit, and nothing but bullshit, and lazy thinking.

All we ever hear is this coalition is coming for China, there could be miscalculations, China will be isolated, blah blah blah. Just pushing a bankrupt narrative to make China appear to be on the defensive, which makes that narrative basic simple minded propaganda.

Think for yourself. No reason to be intellectual slave to Liberal media.

:p

You forgot the most obvious: incite popular unrest and regime change in strategic nations and/or territories to disrupt China's influence. We've already seen HK, other obvious targets are Belt & Road states, African states, Iran, Pakistan.
 

Gatekeeper

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  1. An operation like HK last year takes more than 3 years to prepare, so it most definitely was in the works long before Trump came on stage.
  2. Oh I'm quite certain Biden will try to undermine China, but I don't believe he will continue the trade war, as it's clear to anybody with half a brain that it has been far more detrimental to the US than to China.
  3. It just means Americans are more polarized than ever. Both camps are utterly convinced the other side is evil incarnate.

1. Yes you're right. It's been a 30 years project. But it still required POTUS final nod to engage in a full scale riot.

2. Agreed. But China still need to be on guard for something else they come out with to try and contain China.

3. As I type this now. Trump is on TV claiming cheating! It looks like a full scale civil war is likely
 

B.I.B.

Captain
  1. An operation like HK last year takes more than 3 years to prepare, so it most definitely was in the works long before Trump came on stage.
  2. Oh I'm quite certain Biden will try to undermine China, but I don't believe he will continue the trade war, as it's clear to anybody with half a brain that it has been far more detrimental to the US than to China.
  3. It just means Americans are more polarized than ever. Both camps are utterly convinced the other side is evil incarnate.

Off Topic My apologies but a piss poor internet service makes it very slow to backtrack several pages to look for a post you made somewhere about the China presidents' role was just a ceremonial one which President Xi was keeping. Am I right in thinking that his role as General Secretary of the CCP is where the real power lies will be passed on when Xi finishes his term and MSM was less than truthfull withe facts?

I wonder why the West and MSM in general call him President Xi rather than Chairman Xi?
 
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horse

Colonel
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You forgot the most obvious: incite popular unrest and regime change in strategic nations and/or territories to disrupt China's influence. We've already seen HK, other obvious targets are Belt & Road states, African states, Iran, Pakistan.
That is not obvious to me because every country is different.

Besides, that's what the CIA has been doing ever since I was alive!

So ... how can I tell if that is directed against China inititives or directed against someone else ...

:D
 
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horse

Colonel
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I have a question, why just less than 24 hours ago, you were screaming that It's a easy Trump victory and another 4 more years for Trump?

If you are so intellectual and can think for yourself, why are so dead wrong?
I don't understand your question.

If you want to equate intellectual activity with random election results over 50 states, well, maybe you can prove something new to the world.

Personally, not that interested, other than another 4 more years of Trump!
 

emblem21

Major
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1. Yes you're right. It's been a 30 years project. But it still required POTUS final nod to engage in a full scale riot.

2. Agreed. But China still need to be on guard for something else they come out with to try and contain China.

3. As I type this now. Trump is on TV claiming cheating! It looks like a full scale civil war is likely
The best part is that this is fully deserved by the USA. For all the attempted riots and coups they tried in China and on the whole, none of these have succeed in even coming close to bring China to there knees, but an entirely home grown civil war in the USA that came about due to all the actions prior to now has the greatest chance to bring the USA not only to there knees but also do what it failed to do to China, cause a real damage to the very foundations of the nation
 
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