Discussing Biden's Potential China Policy

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voyager1

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Looks like China will attend the talk in Alaska, according to GT.
It shows Beijing’s maturity, confidence and patience in dealing with anxious US side, while insisting on its core stance.

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Diao Daming, an expert on US studies at Renmin University, said that "it was the US that sent the invitation to China, so it means US leaders are aware that they really need to fix ties," which means the US is the side who desperately wants to improve them, rather than China begging the US for a meeting to pull the ties back from the brink.

But now they are saying they want to see "deeds not words," so it seems they have forgotten who invited whom, Diao said, adding that US decision makers are still struggling over how to deal with China, or "they don't have a consensus yet," which is why they are showing such contradictory and problematic signs ahead of the meeting.
Lmao is US hit on head or something? They first invite China for talks and then they say we dont want words we want actions? And it seems that they still have not reached a consensus on China.

Do they want to contain it?
Make it Democratic (regime change)?
Make it a vassal state?
Get confrontational to Stop China rise?
Do they want to be "friends", equals in multipolar world?

So if they have still not decided, why go and have talks? What are they going to say, Australia, Xinjiang, Hong Kong, Taiwan and then leave the meeting? Clowns
 

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Guys, US politicians always have tough rhetoric on China, whether it's Xinjiang, Tibet, human rights, "aggression", "coercion", but always inevitable turn their back never follow-through with action. It's ALWAYS tough talk, with the only exception of Donald Trump that took real action. Biden is no different. Only bark, no bite.

Give Biden 6-12 months, and those China tariffs are going to come off, Chinese tech off entity list, semiconductor restrictions lift. Only Huawei 5G ban will still be kept though, but Huawei will likely access Google services again and TSMC chips.
 

j17wang

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Guys, US politicians always have tough rhetoric on China, whether it's Xinjiang, Tibet, human rights, "aggression", "coercion", but always inevitable turn their back never follow-through with action. It's ALWAYS tough talk, with the only exception of Donald Trump that took real action. Biden is no different. Only bark, no bite.

Give Biden 6-12 months, and those China tariffs are going to come off, Chinese tech off entity list, semiconductor restrictions lift. Only Huawei 5G ban will still be kept though, but Huawei will likely access Google services again and TSMC chips.

That is absolutely not going to happen. Give 6-12 months, most of us will be either back in China or in some internment camp after the coming riots from the massacre of asian women yesterday.
 

gadgetcool5

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Guys, US politicians always have tough rhetoric on China, whether it's Xinjiang, Tibet, human rights, "aggression", "coercion", but always inevitable turn their back never follow-through with action. It's ALWAYS tough talk, with the only exception of Donald Trump that took real action. Biden is no different. Only bark, no bite.

Give Biden 6-12 months, and those China tariffs are going to come off, Chinese tech off entity list, semiconductor restrictions lift. Only Huawei 5G ban will still be kept though, but Huawei will likely access Google services again and TSMC chips.
No, in 6-12 months the US will have passed even tougher legislation increasing its own investment in technology and 5G infrastructure, and be defining core technologies that it works with partners and allies to define export controls on. Unlike the export controls announced by Trump on individual companies this will affect millions of companies so it will hurt a lot more for China. The chances are it'll also be more multilateral, they will try to rope in the Quad, the EU, TW and SK. China is on the path to isolation here. Meanwhile in 6-12 months Xi Jinping will crack down even more on Chinese tech and the Chinese tech sector will progressively be strangled by the US-Xi Jinping alliance against them.

Literally every major government in the world is against Chinese tech right now, even China. Literally the only place Chinese tech can succeed is Singapore. If I was a Chinese tech talent in China right now I would leave the mainland and emigrate to Singapore, and develop products for the ASEAN market.
 

j17wang

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No, in 6-12 months the US will have passed even tougher legislation increasing its own investment in technology and 5G infrastructure, and be defining core technologies that it works with partners and allies to define export controls on. Unlike the export controls announced by Trump on individual companies this will affect millions of companies so it will hurt a lot more for China. The chances are it'll also be more multilateral, they will try to rope in the Quad, the EU, TW and SK. China is on the path to isolation here. Meanwhile in 6-12 months Xi Jinping will crack down even more on Chinese tech and the Chinese tech sector will progressively be strangled by the US-Xi Jinping alliance against them.

Literally every major government in the world is against Chinese tech right now, even China. Literally the only place Chinese tech can succeed is Singapore. If I was a Chinese tech talent in China right now I would leave the mainland and emigrate to Singapore, and develop products for the ASEAN market.

Why is that so? What is the Xi Jinping crackdown on big tech, please dont just give me an article with a title, actually explain it?
 

gadgetcool5

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Why is that so? What is the Xi Jinping crackdown on big tech, please dont just give me an article with a title, actually explain it?
In my view it's because he's a hard-left communist whose goal is to reverse the gains China has made since 1978 and return to a planned economy & Maoist foreign policy. So Chinese tech can't succeed as that makes the SOEs look bad. He can't do it all at once due to his limited power & broad support for opening & reform in China which was initiated by Deng and has benefitted the Chinese people. But as he slowly consolidates more power he will put his plan into action (especially after Li Keqiang retires next year). A big tell is that before the recent Two Session, Hua Guofeng was heavily praised but Deng Xiaoping was not mentioned.
 
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