Discussing Biden's Potential China Policy

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No.
US had head start, yet it barely can controls the outcome.

First forward in 2020, almost everything US does is source of entertainment, because they are biggest source of adult entertainment.

Chinese PR shouldn't target US & EU. It should target rest of the world to agitate people of the globe against them,especially those in MENA region will come in handy. West is going to use it's population to shield it's government's activity in name of democracy. China need to do exactly same. USSR example bears nothing today. It was a country with lots of nukes & nothing else.

Americans can still do well in propaganda, but I think what will bring them down is their massive borrowing and eventual inflation or Japanification.
 

horse

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Americans can still do well in propaganda,
Being this abusive, does not win hearts and minds.

All it is, it is like one of those rallies they hold in the campaign trail. Expressions of loyalty.

Who are they loyal to?

Outside of America, people have their suspicions, and it ain't them.

Most people in the world will pass on that.

:)
 

solarz

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Chinese PR shouldn't target US & EU. It should target rest of the world to agitate people of the globe against them,especially those in MENA region will come in handy.

And why should China do that?

Stop thinking in zero sum. China benefits from a stable US and a stable globe. China is not trying to destabilize the US, they are doing that to themselves. China is simply trying to manage the decline and mitigate any fallout damage.

Trump is not a result of China being bad at PR, it is one of the symptoms of American decline.

If you go watch some of the Guan videos, you will see that Chinese think tanks are unanimous in preferring Biden to Trump, and they harbor no illusions about Biden.
 

KYli

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Chinese think tanks value stability above anything else. Therefore, their preference of Biden isn't a surprise. However, Chinese think tanks don't have a good track records of giving the Chinese leadership the political insights and realignment of major competitors. I do think Chinese leaders need to hire better experts that truly understand the US and the West. So that it could better preempt and neturalize any aggression from the West.
 

horse

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Chinese think tanks value stability above anything else. Therefore, their preference of Biden isn't a surprise. However, Chinese think tanks don't have a good track records of giving the Chinese leadership the political insights and realignment of major competitors. I do think Chinese leaders need to hire better experts that truly understand the US and the West. So that it could better preempt and neturalize any aggression from the West.
Chinese think tanks are generally useless. 90% of the time they repeat the past, they just write up what happened and give reasons why, which everyone already knows.

The 10% of the time they might give some data or actually give some insight.

But most of the time the Chinese think tank is useless.

There could be two reasons for this. One is that they are dumb and useless. The other reason is that they did not want to really say anything, better to keep people in the dark. Hehe ...

:D
 

horse

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I truly believe the Chinese Communist Party is using western racism, more specifically American Yellow Peril racism against America.

"We will be home by Christmas," that is what the Americans said before they went into the Korean Peninsula and started the Korean War. They started it and thought they be home by Christmas.

Trump started his trade war and tech war and thought the Chinese will wilt, or collapse, or lose, whatever he was thinking.

Both events have the same motivation, that they will beat up China, and full belief in their arrogance they will have cleaned everything up by Christmas.

Since things did not exactly work out that way, they got trapped in their position. That is what the Chinese Communist Party seem to be doing, which is replay American history, poking at the right triggers to foment the position the CCP wants the Americans want to be in.

No Chinese think tank will ever say that.

(As an aside, no Chinese think tank ever bothered with an opinion that the America wanted to invade Iraq to topple Saddam was a good or bad idea. Everyone in officialdom wisely kept their mouths shut and played mah jong.)

No Asian think tank will ever say that either, because then the Chinese will accuse them of being racist or a bad person or whatever. Yet, we all read the same stuff all out of Sun Zi, lol.

Another example is Japan.

Japan and its ninja tricks, always egging on the Americans to do more militarily in the region, while ninja Japan sits around and does nothing.

Look at the facts. Japan through Abe suggested this QUAD alliance. Today there is a trade war and tech war against American, a trade whipping boy in Australia, and twenty soldiers were killed in hand to hand combat with India, yet what did Japan do to contribute to this QUAD alliance other than suggest tougher action be taken? Japan ninja has done nothing except make some noises, and immediately sign onto the RCEP.

Ninja Japan will just watch to see who wins, then side along the bigger power.

No Chinese think tank will ever say anything about the way of the ninja.

Maybe later, when the time is right.

:p :oops:
 
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solarz

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Chinese think tanks value stability above anything else. Therefore, their preference of Biden isn't a surprise. However, Chinese think tanks don't have a good track records of giving the Chinese leadership the political insights and realignment of major competitors. I do think Chinese leaders need to hire better experts that truly understand the US and the West. So that it could better preempt and neturalize any aggression from the West.

That's because the Chinese government values stability above all else.

This idea that Chinese thinkers don't understand the West is simply wrong. People like Zhang Weiwei and Eric Li predicted years ago that the Chinese model would triumph over Western liberal democracy, it just happens that before COVID-19, most people didn't believe them.


the time they repeat the past, they just write up what happened and give reasons why, which everyone already knows.

Untrue. You can easily search for Guan video from a few years ago and see how their predictions played out. Most of them are quite accurate.
 

B.I.B.

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I truly believe the Chinese Communist Party is using western racism, more specifically American Yellow Peril racism against America.

"We will be home by Christmas," that is what the Americans said before they went into the Korean Peninsula and started the Korean War. They started it and thought they be home by Christmas.

Trump started his trade war and tech war and thought the Chinese will wilt, or collapse, or lose, whatever he was thinking.

Both events have the same motivation, that they will beat up China, and full belief in their arrogance they will have cleaned everything up by Christmas.

Since things did not exactly work out that way, they got trapped in their position. That is what the Chinese Communist Party seem to be doing, which is replay American history, poking at the right triggers to foment the position the CCP wants the Americans want to be in.

No Chinese think tank will ever say that.

(As an aside, no Chinese think tank ever bothered with an opinion that the America wanted to invade Iraq to topple Saddam was a good or bad idea. Everyone in officialdom wisely kept their mouths shut and played mah jong.)

No Asian think tank will ever say that either, because then the Chinese will accuse them of being racist or a bad person or whatever. Yet, we all read the same stuff all out of Sun Zi, lol.

Another example is Japan.

Japan and its ninja tricks, always egging on the Americans to do more militarily in the region, while ninja Japan sits around and does nothing.

Look at the facts. Japan through Abe suggested this QUAD alliance. Today there is a trade war and tech war against American, a trade whipping boy in Australia, and twenty soldiers were killed in hand to hand combat with India, yet what did Japan do to contribute to this QUAD alliance other than suggest tougher action be taken? Japan ninja has done nothing except make some noises, and immediately sign onto the RCEP.

Ninja Japan will just watch to see who wins, then side along the bigger power.

No Chinese think tank will ever say anything about the way of the ninja.

Maybe later, when the time is right.

:p :oops:

They were, just 4 Christmas later.
 
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