CV-18 Fujian/003 CATOBAR carrier thread
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The ship on the right is the 075 number 4?
the cats as i know
yes, but that’s surely not enough to commission it anytime soon
Yes, that's the 4th 075 LHD at Hudong-Zhonghua's new fitting out basin.
Catapult testing would have little or no part in the commissioning, I would think. Both Liaoning and Shandong were commissioned for months before air trials began.
Commissioning happens after sea-keeping and sea-worthiness tests. Bulk of testing for the launch and recovery systems and air wing should come after the Navy takes over.
From this angle it certainly looks distinct from an american super carrier and its not just the island. Looks cleaner and less cluttered than Nimitz and less blocky than Ford.
The problem is the post made by Henrik (below) suggested they had done extensive testing in the shipyard and is implying it has already solved many issues that would precede commissioning, and Deino's posts have been to disabuse him of that notion.
CV-18 Fujian/003 CATOBAR carrier thread
At 4.20PM movement of the group has stopped. May be they are trying to turn the bow of CV18 around to the river mouth.
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Everyone should be telling Henrik that his post makes no sense and that there is still extensive sea trials and aviation testing to be done prior to commissioning, and what tests they had done at dockside in port is far from sufficient to even broach the idea of commissioning in the near future.
Deino is just being too polite and insufficiently direct by asking "what have they intensively tested" rather than just outright pushing back and saying what tests they've done in port/dockside is far from sufficient to near commissioning, which in turn opens it up for people to answer his question while not understanding the context of what he wrote is meant to deny the suggestion made by Henrik.
Interesting facts - could that be because the ski-ramp is a much simpler construction for take-off compared to catapults? It could make sense to do the aviation testing more thoroughly for the 003 before commissioning than the STOBAR ships.
The issue is you can't really conduct much flight associated tests from berthside other than the orange trolley shots. For fixed-wing launches and recovery you need the carrier in open waters and for that you need the sea tests to be completed. And when you completed those, you can have it commissioned and the Navy's air wing can then do its trials.
The only possible safe aviation tests from berthside might be helicopters but I haven't seen much of those on the Shandong/Liaoning when they were docked either. They want to be at sea when testing aviation.