CV-18 Fujian/003 CATOBAR carrier thread

Blitzo

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Is that a huge hole in the middle of the flight deck? Thought they already covered that hole up some months ago.
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That's the reflection of the island on the flight deck, which looks a bit wet. You can see the reflection of the gantry crane on the flight deck as well.
Either they washed down the flight deck or it had rained recently.
 

lcloo

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Re: post #7716. Interesting, walkway connecting dockside to the bow of 003 has been removed. Also the water barrier that separete the dry dock into two has been removed as well. Launch in the middle of June? Or may be late June?
 

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Interesting, walkway connecting dockside to the bow of 003 has been removed. Also the water barrier that separete the dry dock into two has been removed as well. Launch in the middle of June?

I don't think trying to pin down and estimate an exact day, week or month for when it will launch is a useful exercise.

It's on the horizon, and barring other unexpected outside factors that could cause delays, it's just a matter of waiting.
 

Helius

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Fingers crossed. Would be a nice aesthetic upgrade.
Functional as much as aesthetic. Bigger windows without thick pillars in between thus affording unimpeded panoramic view can only be a good thing for flight control.

Also in that vein, they've certainly modified the forward sponsons from the large curvy ones found on 16 and 17 to an angular profile more akin to the ones on the Nimitz/Ford.
 

abc123

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One doesn't convert coal to oil. Coal to energy yes. And coal is very nice and important. Which is why china keeps its own reserves and imports so that if coal is limited due to depletion or price volatility, it uses some of its own.

China imports only 2/3 of its energy? That's amazing. India imports nearly 3/3 of its energy use lol just for a comparison. And this is china barely even using its own coal reserves.

Notice that china's energy security is stronger than Europe and US. It has better relations, ties, and mutual dependence with Iran, KSA, Russia!, And coal producers around the world. China also has more renewable sourced energy than almost the rest of the world combined. Those project goals are not even close to being met and already china produces more joules and watts from solar, hydro, and wind then what Europe or US does. Combine those and you'll get around how much energy china produces from renewables. Pipelines go through neutral to friendly countries as well.

what does Russia's equity overseas have to do with china? Those countries can try to block Malacca strait and honestly china can let them and those countries will collapse under the weight of just inflation within years. They would socially collapse within months. It would be these supply chain issues multiplied by 1000.

do you realise that the western world is begging china to restart production and let ships flow? They are in reality more dependent on china providing them with all those goods that make the world run on a dime. Without that they can pick either 500% inflation or surviving like it is the 19th century.

on tech, the west is actually just about as dependent on china than the other way around. China can make chips down to 14nm nodes already and has been for some time. Aircrafts too. They will just be less efficient and economical than leading western ones. But everything from designing the next consumer product to a transformer, is done in china. All the leading edge stuff is more Asian than it is western and in more domains than people realise, it's china.

Remind me please, cars and ships and aircrafts and tanks and trucks today are using oil or coal?
Without sufficient domestic capability to turn coal into oil China simply isn't safe enough from oil embargo(blockade, even with all the coal in the world.
Better relations with KSA ( yeah right, if there's US puppet... ), Iran ( and what did China ever did for Iran, they blocked the sanctions against them in UNSC? ) and Russia? OK with Russia, but how to transport that oil? Can Russian supply satisfy Chinese demands? About Iran and Saudis, even if that's the case, what to do when US parks it's aircraft carrier in Strait of Malacca? You think that tankers from KSA or Iran shall be able to dive under?

Allright, the West will have an inflation, that's sure, but what about China? When Chinese cars, ships, aircrafts, trucks dont drive/sail/fly, when factories stop working? When employees get fired because there's no job for them?
 

abc123

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I read somewhere that a 100,000 ton carrier has the firepower equivalent of 3,000 missiles. A 10,000 ton destroyer has about 100 missiles. So 10 destroyers would equal to 1 carrier in total tonnage. However with only 1,000 missiles that is only 1/3rd the firepower equivalent. Furthermore 10 destroyers probably costs the same as 1 carrier. If 10 destroyers had to fight 1 carrier, there is enough firepower to sink the carrier. Not all 10 destroyers is guaranteed to survive, but it would still be a victory for the destroyers.
Remember what happened to Yamato? Yamato also had stronger guns than all US carriers combined, but instead of sinking them, it was Yamato that was sunk, because she couldn't come close enough to use them.
 
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