CV-18 Fujian/003 CATOBAR carrier thread

[Philister]

At this rate it'll be complete before the Vikrant finishes sea trials

Leave them alone, it’s off topic, India isn’t a serious country anyway

 

[Philister]

Actually there is a precedent of a single ship class for the largest naval surface combatant. The Type 051B is a single ship class.

I only agree there is a decent chance for a second ship on the same class as 003 because there is no way the nuclear naval reactor will be ready in time to start the construction of the nuclear carrier right after this one is launched. Plus given they will have to shake down the new technologies in this carrier a decent amount of time between this and the 004 would be advisable. Given the gap in time it is possible to build a second carrier of this same type. The only question is will they do it or not.



The Type 055 had little new technology compared to the Type 052D. It is basically a larger hull with much the same technology in it.
You cannot compare that and this. Totally different.



Except the Chinese don't do those kind of stunts. There have been no rush builds of anything to suit any political date thus far.

051B is a special case here ,back then,PLAN is in a special period of time too,they couldn’t even have a new destroyer every year if I remembered correctly ,PLAN just didn’t like that ship,052C had its issues at the beginning,they still make it through and built another 4 though

 

[KevinG]

Wow ... simply amazing!

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If the model is very close to real design, then the radar system looks more advanced then 055. Then why, it has AEW planes and it doesn’t have mid-long range air-defense system. Then what’s dual-band radar for?

 

[chickenhero3830]

If the model is very close to real design, then the radar system looks more advanced then 055. Then why, it has AEW planes and it doesn’t have mid-long range air-defense system. Then what’s dual-band radar for?

because the type 003 aew plane is going to work with Type 055. The aew will guide type 055 missile. simple

 

[Richard Santos]

Leave them alone, it’s off topic, India isn’t a serious country anyway

It is a lighthearted country.

 

[sheogorath]

If the model is very close to real design, then the radar system looks more advanced then 055. Then why, it has AEW planes and it doesn’t have mid-long range air-defense system. Then what’s dual-band radar for?

The information gathered by the radars can probably be data-linked to the escorts which can make use of the extra dual band capabilities.

 

[Hendrik_2000]

051B is a special case here ,back then,PLAN is in a special period of time too,they couldn’t even have a new destroyer every year if I remembered correctly ,PLAN just didn’t like that ship,052C had its issues at the beginning,they still make it through and built another 4 though

I think they use the building of type 51 to study the hull that latter become type 52 destroyer. And for the first time they use domestic component instead of imported . Due to embargo they can't get Gas Turbine so they have to use Steam turbine. Yes PLAN is not so happy due to the weakness of China's industrial base at that time. Life is not easy or fair if you are China. But they got MLU so now they fulfilled their intended goal. It is frustrating watching China progress in shipbuilding during that time There is 6 or 7 years hiatus before they mass produced Type 52C. Anyway enough of this discussion.

 

[taxiya]

Rear bridge is there down the radar array,it’s the windows still being covered or they haven’t cut it yet

If there is a rear bridge, the angle of its windows would be strange. The wall is canted in the wrong manner, see the orange lines, compared with the right manner (blue line) of the front bridge.

I know some ships do the same, but in those cases as I know the ship (actually boat) is very small so the window follows the angle of the deck house. I don't see that kind of constraint in a CV to do the same, nor is there a reason to do differently than the front bridge.

Any guess?

 

[anzha]

If there is a rear bridge, the angle of its windows would be strange. The wall is canted in the wrong manner, see the orange lines, compared with the right manner (blue line) of the front bridge.

I know some ships do the same, but in those cases as I know the ship (actually boat) is very small so the window follows the angle of the deck house. I don't see that kind of constraint in a CV to do the same, nor is there a reason to do differently than the front bridge.

Any guess?
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I can't unsee it, folks, and I apologize. However, clearly, the US is screwed: the Iron Giant is part of the PLAN.

 

[Blitzo]

If there is a rear bridge, the angle of its windows would be strange. The wall is canted in the wrong manner, see the orange lines, compared with the right manner (blue line) of the front bridge.

I know some ships do the same, but in those cases as I know the ship (actually boat) is very small so the window follows the angle of the deck house. I don't see that kind of constraint in a CV to do the same, nor is there a reason to do differently than the front bridge.

Any guess?
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My expectation is that the rear structure follows the slanting of the rest of the island (see the holes for the radar arrays and the angles they are at).
By contrast, the front bridge benefits from greater ability to "overlook" the flight deck and extend out, and I expect the angling of it will be different to the rest of the island (including the rear structure).

That is to say, it is the front bridge structure which will be the exception as far as angling consistency is concerned