CV-18 Fujian/003 CATOBAR carrier thread

para80

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Interesting to note that when the first super carrier was built in the mid 1950s, a super carrier was the largest ship of any type in the world. Now look how small an aircraft carrier of at least the same size looks next to the container ship being built next to her.
Hm that's debatable. The Queen Elizabeth already displaced 80k tons and was in service since the 1930s. The supertankers took over for good end of the 1950s breaching 100k tons displacement (Universe Apollo). It's certainly true that for a while supercarriers were "up there", but they were never dominant as the largest ships in service.

PS: Sorry for the OT!
 

Tam

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Interesting to note that when the first super carrier was built in the mid 1950s, a super carrier was the largest ship of any type in the world. Now look how small an aircraft carrier of at least the same size looks next to the container ship being built next to her.

This could be one of the CMA CGN's 23000 TEU container ship, but since that project is nearly done, the next project, or this particular boxship, could be one of Evergreen's 24000 TEU container ship. Sorry for OT. Was going to add to this to the shipbuilding thread.
 

Richard Santos

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Hm that's debatable. The Queen Elizabeth already displaced 80k tons and was in service since the 1930s. The supertankers took over for good end of the 1950s breaching 100k tons displacement (Universe Apollo). It's certainly true that for a while supercarriers were "up there", but they were never dominant as the largest ships in service.

PS: Sorry for the OT!
Hm that's debatable. The Queen Elizabeth already displaced 80k tons and was in service since the 1930s. The supertankers took over for good end of the 1950s breaching 100k tons displacement (Universe Apollo). It's certainly true that for a while supercarriers were "up there", but they were never dominant as the largest ships in service.

PS: Sorry for the OT!

Minor nit pick: Queen Elizabeth was actually not placed in service until March 1940.

Bigger nit pick:the consistently reported sizes of the big 80,000 ton+ translamtic liners such as QE, QM and Normandie were in gross registered tons, a measurement of the usable enclosed volume, not displacements. The displacements of these ships are much more rarely quoted, more over the quoted numbers often do not agree. However the reported displacements of passenger ships generally tend to be less than its gross registered tons by a few thousand tons. What queen Elizabeth’s actually displacement is thus not entirely clear, but very likely a few thousand tons less than its 83,000 GRT. A good guess might be QE’s full load displacement is between 75,000 tons and 83,000 tons, with a median at 79,000 tons.

So the first super carriers to see service in 1956, the Forrestal, displaced just over 79,000 tons full load when newly completed. She would have been at least very close in weight to the biggest passenger liner then in existence, but probably displaced slightly more. The first oil tanker to break 80,000 tons displacement was in 1958. So Forrestal had a good claim to being heaviest ship in the world when completed.
 

Richard Santos

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I tried to rotate the original one a bit so that identifying details is a bit easier.

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It seems she retailed the Kuznetsov style semi-transom stern, where the flat transom is entirely above water, and there is a rounded transition to the bottom, and not the full transom stern of most other modern warships as well as American aircraft carriers, where the bottom of the transom is immersed, and there is a sharp knuckle where the transom transitions to the bottom.
 

Deino

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It seems she retailed the Kuznetsov style semi-transom stern, where the flat transom is entirely above water, and there is a rounded transition to the bottom, and not the full transom stern of most other modern warships as well as American aircraft carriers, where the bottom of the transom is immersed, and there is a sharp knuckle where the transom transitions to the bottom.


To admit, could you please explain this by an illustration or within that image?
 

Kejora

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To admit, could you please explain this by an illustration or within that image?
Transom: flat rear end of a ship
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Full flat transom on Nimitz class extending all the way to the waterline
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Semi Transom on Kuznetsov
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