CV-18 Fujian/003 CATOBAR carrier thread
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That's what I've been doing this whole time. People frequently get sloppy with terminology, and while most of the time everybody knows what everybody is talking about, it's good to sometimes point out that "EMALS" technically refers only to the US EM cat system, "Aegis" technically refers only to the US combat data system, "LCAC" technically refers only to the US ACV, "APAR" technically refers only to the Dutch naval AESA, etc.
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I read somewhere in this thread saying that China does not have nuclear reactor for AC. Well this article clearly said China does have since 2015 and now undergoing final test to be fitted into an offshore power plant
Reactors for future Chinese nuclear carriers’ put on show
China may have mastered the technology to build nuclear reactors for aircraft carriers but it is unclear how powerful these shipboard reactors will be
By ASIA TIMES STAFF DECEMBER 7, 2017 5:10 PM (UTC+8)
A fleet of vessel models on display at the 2017 China Maritime Expo in Shanghai this week has drawn attention given the exhibitor, state-owned China Shipbuilding Industry Corp, no longer shies away from acknowledging its capabilities from design to building nuclear-powered vessels, which look set to propel the Chinese Navy into the world’s elite club of countries with a nuclear aircraft carrier.
CSIC finalized its master design for shipborne miniaturized reactors in 2015, having surmounted a slew of technical challenges from safety and maintenance to integrated propulsion system, according to Xinhua.
The Chinese shipbuilding conglomerate can now install two compact, uranium-splitting reactors in one ship, which is rumored to have a similar layout to US nuclear carriers, including the A4W reactors for the Nimitz class supercarriers.
A model of a floating nuclear-power plant being developed by the China National Nuclear Corp. Photo: Xinhua
A CSIC technical note said the major technical hurdle is that, while ensuring absolute shield and containment of radiation from reactors, the steel walls, plenum and coolant equipment must not be too heavy, so as not to become a drag on a ship’s cruising speed, and in turn the takeoff of fighter planes on deck.
China developed indigenous nuclear submarines as early as the 1960s, so a third-generation of such submarines are near inauguration. That helped technicians to build reactors that can generate electrical and motor energy for its future carriers.
France “transplanted” submarine reactors onto its Charles de Gaullecarrier, though the flagship of the French Navy can only sail at 25 knots due to inadequate horsepower.
The now decommissioned USS Enterprise had eight such reactors to propel the huge carrier.
Observers say if China can use just two reactors to set its future nuclear carrier in motion, then the reactors must be highly efficient. But it’s also possible that the first Chinese nuclear carrier will sail no faster than the Charles de Gaulle.
Earlier reports said that China’s first mobile nuclear reactor is undergoing final tests before sailing into the South China Sea to power islands and drilling platforms in the vast ocean.
Reactors for future Chinese nuclear carriers’ put on show
China may have mastered the technology to build nuclear reactors for aircraft carriers but it is unclear how powerful these shipboard reactors will be
By ASIA TIMES STAFF DECEMBER 7, 2017 5:10 PM (UTC+8)
A fleet of vessel models on display at the 2017 China Maritime Expo in Shanghai this week has drawn attention given the exhibitor, state-owned China Shipbuilding Industry Corp, no longer shies away from acknowledging its capabilities from design to building nuclear-powered vessels, which look set to propel the Chinese Navy into the world’s elite club of countries with a nuclear aircraft carrier.
CSIC finalized its master design for shipborne miniaturized reactors in 2015, having surmounted a slew of technical challenges from safety and maintenance to integrated propulsion system, according to Xinhua.
The Chinese shipbuilding conglomerate can now install two compact, uranium-splitting reactors in one ship, which is rumored to have a similar layout to US nuclear carriers, including the A4W reactors for the Nimitz class supercarriers.
A model of a floating nuclear-power plant being developed by the China National Nuclear Corp. Photo: Xinhua
A CSIC technical note said the major technical hurdle is that, while ensuring absolute shield and containment of radiation from reactors, the steel walls, plenum and coolant equipment must not be too heavy, so as not to become a drag on a ship’s cruising speed, and in turn the takeoff of fighter planes on deck.
China developed indigenous nuclear submarines as early as the 1960s, so a third-generation of such submarines are near inauguration. That helped technicians to build reactors that can generate electrical and motor energy for its future carriers.
France “transplanted” submarine reactors onto its Charles de Gaullecarrier, though the flagship of the French Navy can only sail at 25 knots due to inadequate horsepower.
The now decommissioned USS Enterprise had eight such reactors to propel the huge carrier.
Observers say if China can use just two reactors to set its future nuclear carrier in motion, then the reactors must be highly efficient. But it’s also possible that the first Chinese nuclear carrier will sail no faster than the Charles de Gaulle.
Earlier reports said that China’s first mobile nuclear reactor is undergoing final tests before sailing into the South China Sea to power islands and drilling platforms in the vast ocean.
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Well, this carrier is a significant step up from their second carrier, whih is their first indegenous. But it is still basially a replica of the Liaoning and they had already had great experience during that refit/rebuild.
I expect the new carrier to take longer and would not be surprised to see its construction to take 3-4 years.
It is much larger. It is a completely new design for the PLAN. It will have cats and traps and potentially nuclear power.
The will be very exacting and careful in this build, so if they started in June 2017, I would expect to see the launch sometime between the fall of 2020 and the summer of 2021.
Time will tell...we shall see.
The first carriers have traps and I would be immensely surprised if it had nuclear power.
It might have a steam plant but - in that case - EM cats need no more, more probably less, steam to generate its electricity than a steam cat would need.
A new CV with cats is much more capable powerful * with Liaoning you have 2 J-15 ( 24 ) Sqns saying one in defense for CAP and one offensive with Shandong 3 Sqns ( normaly 36 ) so you can have one for CAP and one escort or attack with other and with a more big CV 4 Sqns ( + eventualy as USN have a Small EW Sqn flight in fact as US CVNs have ) but in fact capable embark 5 Sqns as before and there you can do geat job ! 2 for a very robust defense and 3 in offensive or 1 + 4.
In more with a STOBAR you launch only a bird by mn and the first consumes... problem for big air strikes with at less 2 cats idealy 4 you don't have this problem limitation in more for payload in fact you increase the salvoe size, ammunitions and avitaion fuel qty also determines the power.
* Also possible use AWACS which have a detection range much more important than AEW helos.
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Why can't they just use two/four reactors from the submarines to power a carrier? It was said Charles de Gaulle was done that way.
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