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CV-18 Fujian/003 CATOBAR carrier thread
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Haha I do have a bit of experience of other "Asians". I would say that apart from Japan, Taiwan and Singapore, most other Asians are the same with respect to "copying". Its no coincidence of course that these same countries are considered "developed". You could argue which comes first in a chicken or egg situation.
I seem to recall plenty of copying allegations mounted against Japan and Taiwan a few decades back.
Intrepid
Major
The egg comes first because it is an evolutionary step further towards the chicken.
vesicles
Colonel
Not sure what you meant by "egg being an evolutionary step towards chicken"...
In terms of copying, it is an almost essential step for any less developed nations to catch up. Every single country that has fallen behind in any way has caught up because they copy. The copying gives them the necessary lift to catch up.
I've said this before, the British stole tea cultivating technology from China about 150 years ago.
Americans and the Soviets copied missile technology from the Germans.
Japanese, Koreans and Taiwanese copied heavily from the Americans.
Greeks copied Egyptians and Romans copied Greeks.
And don't forget, whenever you write down a number, that's copied from the Arabs.
The world is one gigantic melting pot, where everyone learns from everyone. The only difference is the timing. You learn from me now. I will learn from you 100 years from now. Then we both learn from someone else 200 years later.
Quickie
Colonel
Anything that comes after the pioneering invention can be said to be a copy of that invention. Of course if you're smart you don't call your work a copy of that invention. You call it innovation, and sometime rightly so, because of the improvement made on it.
The problem is most, if not all, of the improvement/innovation can't be seen from the outside or appreciated by the untrained eye.
The haters of course would then go a step further of mental blocking themselves that any kind of improvement is even possible, even if they are already visible from the outside, and would rather call it a copy of something just for the fun of trolling or for whatever egoistic reason they may have.
The problem is most, if not all, of the improvement/innovation can't be seen from the outside or appreciated by the untrained eye.
The haters of course would then go a step further of mental blocking themselves that any kind of improvement is even possible, even if they are already visible from the outside, and would rather call it a copy of something just for the fun of trolling or for whatever egoistic reason they may have.
Intrepid
Major
From chicken to egg there is always an evolutionary step, even when it is a very very small step.
From egg to chicken there is no evolutionary step.
So the egg comes first, and then the chicken.
I can't believe we're talking about chickens and eggs in a carrier thread. This must be an SDF first.
You might be surprised.
vesicles
Colonel
I apologize for the OT, but the nerd and biologist inside me just can't help it... I promise this will be my last post on chicken and egg.
An egg is a part of the chicken. How can one part of the chicken be a step ahead in evolution over other parts of a single body?
Would a human egg be an evolutionary step ahead of human? Yes, human has eggs too. The only difference between a human and a chicken is the chicken lays the egg and lets the egg mature outside her body. A human female allows her fertilized egg mature inside her body.
Almost all living beings have eggs, no matter how advanced or primitive. And egg is an integral part of the animal that has the egg. So the egg is the same as its own master animal in terms of evolution.
If we truly want to know if eggs appeared before animal, we need to trace back to the appearance of the first animal that used egg for reproduction. Although I have no idea how eggs appeared, one thing I am sure is that life on earth started as single cell organisms, which are essentially eggs (essentially a gigantic single cell). In that sense, egg came first. However, that doesn't mean egg is evolutionarily ahead. It actually means that the egg is probably the most primitive part of all living beings.
End of OT. The nerd inside me is happy...