CV-18 Fujian/003 CATOBAR carrier thread

Blitzo

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Inque said:
Why years more? It's already taken years to test it, and if it works as intended, why wait even longer?
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Initial Operating Capability/IOC is about the initial warfighting capability of a vessel, not about whether all of the hardware is functional.

Just because your hardware is verified to work initially during tests, doesn't mean you have the sufficiently experienced crew and pilots to actually have that warfighting capability at the outset, and it also doesn't mean your hardware will function as expected during more intensive operating capabilities.

Think about the last few years as making sure that equipment actually all function.
Then think about the next few years as actually making sure equipment can function under more intensive warfighting conditions and that you have enough crew and resources and logistics to be capable of fighting a war.

Full Operating Capability/FOC will take even longer than that -- an additional few years after IOC is achieved, which will be making sure that your crew and pilots and hardware are all mature and capable of warfighting under a variety of conditions including the most intensive.


That's something all weapons systems go through, not just CV-18, and not just aircraft carriers either. But it's the case for fighter aircraft, destroyers, submarines, assault rifles, tanks. Apply that model to literally any new system.
 
00CuriousObserver

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Source: you can already see it

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Inque

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Blitzo said:
Initial Operating Capability/IOC is about the initial warfighting capability of a vessel, not about whether all of the hardware is functional.

Just because your hardware is verified to work initially during tests, doesn't mean you have the sufficiently experienced crew and pilots to actually have that warfighting capability at the outset, and it also doesn't mean your hardware will function as expected during more intensive operating capabilities.

Think about the last few years as making sure that equipment actually all function.
Then think about the next few years as actually making sure equipment can function under more intensive warfighting conditions and that you have enough crew and resources and logistics to be capable of fighting a war.

Full Operating Capability/FOC will take even longer than that -- an additional few years after IOC is achieved, which will be making sure that your crew and pilots and hardware are all mature and capable of warfighting under a variety of conditions including the most intensive.


That's something all weapons systems go through, not just CV-18, and not just aircraft carriers either. But it's the case for fighter aircraft, destroyers, submarines, assault rifles, tanks. Apply that model to literally any new system.
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Thank you for explaining. Shouldn't the PLAN have some trained crew and pilots already from their existing carriers, which could act like training ships for this one?
 
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00CuriousObserver said:
I don’t think it’s entirely appropriate to call the 9th and 10th trips “sea trials.” We know the ship was handed over to the PLAN after the 8th trial, so it’s impossible to determine whether these trips were still part of trials or were done for other purposes, such as training. At this point, the ship could already be operating as de facto commissioned.

In fact, we’ve recently seen what appeared to be a training touch-and-go.
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Until the Fujian is being commissioned all outings are sea trials for me.
 
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