CV-18 Fujian/003 CATOBAR carrier thread

[Richard Santos]

I thought the work was halted due to reevaluation of catapult selection. And the competition was reopen by building those 2 different type of catapult
Now we know the winner is Emal. So I guess they proceed on that base and redesign the CV18. The construction was delay by a year

Why would the construction and assembly of most of the hull modules below hanger deck be effected by the choice of catapults?

 

[Intrepid]

Why would the construction and assembly of most of the hull modules below hanger deck be effected by the choice of catapults?

It may be that more changes have been made to a completely electric vessel. The EMALS units are also located deep down in the ship - because they are heavy and therefore welcome where they provide good stability in heavy seas.

 

[Daniel707]

From Henri K blog another rumor

A source working at the Jiangnan Shipyard indicates that the cutting of the 1st sheet of the CATOBAR Type 002 aircraft carrier took place on 29/06

If the first steel cutting of Type 002 AC occurred in 29 June 2017, that's mean we can see first pictures of Type 002 AC under construction on June 2018?

 

[Deino]

If the first steel cutting of Type 002 AC occurred in 29 June 2017, that's mean we can see first pictures of Type 002 AC under construction on June 2018?

I don't think so:

Comparing to US carrier, the USS Reagan had its first steel cut 3 years before keel laying (aka first modules laid down). The USS Ford had a 4 year from “first steel cut” to "keel laying".

If we compare with the Type 001A “cutting first steel” for the 001A vessel actually took place on 28th August 2013 and the construction of individual sections started in January 2014. Visible preparations at Dalian’s dry-dock were noted for the first time in February 2015 and the new carrier was reportedly laid down on 10th March.

If we assume a similar timeline I would expect something like this:

 

[Daniel707]

I don't think so:

Comparing to US carrier, the USS Reagan had its first steel cut 3 years before keel laying (aka first modules laid down). The USS Ford had a 4 year from “first steel cut” to "keel laying".

If we compare with the Type 001A “cutting first steel” for the 001A vessel actually took place on 28th August 2013 and the construction of individual sections started in January 2014. Visible preparations at Dalian’s dry-dock were noted for the first time in February 2015 and the new carrier was reportedly laid down on 10th March.

If we assume a similar timeline I would expect something like this:

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Thanks for prediction timeline

What I heard from many people, Jiangnan Shipyard is more efficient than Dalian Shipyard.

Doesn't know it's true or not, but I hope it's true

 

[delft]

Thanks for prediction timeline

What I heard from many people, Jiangnan Shipyard is more efficient than Dalian Shipyard.

Doesn't know it's true or not, but I hope it's true

I suppose the production plant at Jiangnan has been designed taking account of the experience with Type 001A in Dalian and with the expectation that every aircraft carrier built will be followed by the next one at the rate agreed with PLAN for the foreseeable future. That means that the provisions for installing a nuclear power plant have been provided for by having a designated site for it but that all other plant to produce flattops will be ready when needed to build the first of this series.
Question; a few years ago ( 2014? ) trading in the shares of one of the big Chinese shipbuilding concerns was interrupted from May till September or thereabout to arrange finance for investment for naval shipbuilding. Was that for the owner of Jiangnan?

 

[Richard Santos]

I don't think so:

Comparing to US carrier, the USS Reagan had its first steel cut 3 years before keel laying (aka first modules laid down). The USS Ford had a 4 year from “first steel cut” to "keel laying".

If we compare with the Type 001A “cutting first steel” for the 001A vessel actually took place on 28th August 2013 and the construction of individual sections started in January 2014. Visible preparations at Dalian’s dry-dock were noted for the first time in February 2015 and the new carrier was reportedly laid down on 10th March.

If we assume a similar timeline I would expect something like this:

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The actual pace of US carrier construction is effected by the desire to leave no dead period at the yard between the construction of one carrier and the next. So it is governed by the rate at which new carriers are funded, not the rate at which the work can proceed with urgency.

 

[Jeff Head]

I don't think so:

Comparing to US carrier, the USS Reagan had its first steel cut 3 years before keel laying (aka first modules laid down). The USS Ford had a 4 year from “first steel cut” to "keel laying".

If we compare with the Type 001A “cutting first steel” for the 001A vessel actually took place on 28th August 2013 and the construction of individual sections started in January 2014. Visible preparations at Dalian’s dry-dock were noted for the first time in February 2015 and the new carrier was reportedly laid down on 10th March.

If we assume a similar timeline I would expect something like this:

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This all depends on politics...funding...yard time...etc.

But, when the US wants to turn them out fast they can.

World War II is a good example...but you can find them with examples of the Nimitz class as well.

Several of them were laid down and launched in three years or less.

The Stennis was laid down and launched in 2 years and eight months. And that is an over 100,000 ton nuclear carrier!

The same people are building the Ford class...and if they US Military and leadership decided they needed them faster, particularly now that they are closing in on completing the second one's construction, they could do similar things if they had to.

...in fact, if the US absoultely had to do it, they could start up another facility to build the,...since the 50s there just hasn;t been a need or reason to do so.

I doubt that the Chinese will be building two carriers at different places either...but time will tell/

 

[Intrepid]

And that is an over 100,000 ton nuclear carrier!

Wow! Eleven times bigger than other carriers.

 

[Jeff Head]

Wow! Eleven times bigger than other carriers.

Well...I think you know it was a typo...but look aqain...it clearly says 100,000 tons.

...now. LOL!

Thanks for pointing it out.

Still building a 100,000 ton, nuclear carrier in just over 30 months is a tremendous accomplishment and I just wanted to put it into the conversation.

China has shown they are capable of similar actions with the building f CV-17.