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taxiya

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We can name it
  • Type 002 (Possible confusion with the former designations Type 001A and Type 002)
  • Project 002 (Confusion with projects 707 and 048 possible)
  • Program 002 ("Program" for a single ship sounds strange)
  • Vessel 002 (I like it, but who knows what tomorrow is :))
Actually, there is no conceptual distinction of Project and Program in Chinese, Chinese words "项目" and "工程" are same same to people mind. I myself had a great difficulty to understand the difference between Project and Program when my company introduced "Program" it in the 2000s, and I still don't fully understand it, not sure about my European colleagues.

Back to the name of the ship, I prefer Project 002 because
  • Usually Chinese would translate 工程 to Project and vise verser. They are the closest literal match one can get between English and Chinese.
  • China IMO is closer to Soviet practice in that they both have official project names in Characters/Letters and numbers. They may or may not have a fancy name for a project. Class name is more of western tradition. Example is Kuznetsov and Varyag/Liaoning being ships of Project 1143.5 which serves as designation of class. But I have no idea if Soviets called the two ships "??? class". So we know project 002 for sure, but we don't know if there is or will be a class name in the future (something like type 055).
So better to stay on something we are more certain than anything that may create future confusion.
 

taxiya

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Call it a matter of consensus then, since everybody seems to be using CV-16 and CV-17 instead of 16 and 17. What I would actually like to do is to refer to them by what the PLAN calls them, but since we have no idea what that is, it's a total crap-shoot.
It was just a "mind excercise" on my part. I am fine with CV-16 as CV simply means Carrier Vessel which is exactly what Liaoning is.
 

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Homegrown aircraft carrier ahead of schedule

2017-08-23 09:13

Global Times Editor: Li Yan

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China's second aircraft carrier is transferred from dry dock into the water at a launch ceremony in Dalian shipyard of the China Shipbuilding Industry Corp. in Dalian, northeast China's Liaoning Province, April 26, 2017. The new carrier, the first domestically-built one, came after the Liaoning, a refitted former Soviet Union-made carrier that was put into commission in the Navy of the Chinese People's Liberation Army in 2012. (Xinhua/Li Gang)

Last stage to turn over warship to PLA navy

China's first homegrown aircraft carrier is very likely to start its first sea trials in autumn, as its manufacturer announced that it will present key achievements as a tribute to the 19th National Congress of the Communist Party of China (CPC).

The Dalian Shipbuilding Industry Corp (DSIC) of the China Shipbuilding Industry Corporation (CSIC), the manufacturer of the Type 001A, posted details of a meeting on its website on August 18.

Hu Wenming, the head and Party chief of the CSIC who visited the DSIC in Dalian, northeastern China's Liaoning Province, praised the DSIC's work, saying the "key project" team has completed tasks ahead of schedule, according to the DSIC. Although the website didn't mention the aircraft carrier, the photo shows that the meeting is of "the Party Committee Working Conference of 002 Aircraft Carrier" (002 is the code of the project).

"The DSIC will greet the 19th CPC National Congress by delivering key achievements on a special product in this special time," said DSIC Chairman Liu Zheng, during a DSIC meeting on August 15 in Dalian, according to the company's website.

Liu said all personnel working on the key project led by the CSIC will stick to the directions of Xi Jinping, the General Secretary of the CPC Central Committee, to provide world-class naval equipment for a world-leading navy.

The Type 001A is located in the DSIC's shipyard in Liaoning Province.

The "special time" refers to the 19th CPC National Congress, which marks the opening of a new phase of China's reforms. And the enhancement of the People's Liberation Army (PLA) navy's combat capabilities is an important part of the country's military reforms, Li Jie, a Beijing-based naval expert, told the Global Times on Tuesday.

Chinese experts believe the project's next achievement will most likely be the sea trials phase.

Zhang Ye, a research fellow at the PLA Naval Research Institute, told the Global Times that if the Type 001A can start its sea trials before the event, which is the last stage prior to turning the warship over to the navy, it would mark a huge step forward in China's development of a stronger navy.

China has successfully tested the Type 001A's power system and the carrier will undergo a mooring test in September ahead of schedule, meaning that the ship's power system is all set, and Zhang said he believed part of the mooring test has already started even during the power test, so the mooring test period could be shorter than expected.

More comprehensive test

The schedule for the sea trials will depend on how long the mooring test takes, Zhang noted.

The sea trials will include an even more comprehensive performance test, which would cover the propelling and communications systems under different maritime conditions, which would usually take two years, Zhang said. He added the trials would not be limited to a specific weather condition.

"The gap between the launch and sea trials of an aircraft carrier can take years. Progress depends on many factors, including funding, technological obstacles and the needs of clients. A new class of vessel normally requires more time, just like the Type 002 which is currently under construction in Shanghai, and will be very different from the Type 001 and 001A, but much more advanced," said Song Zhongping, a military expert who served in the Rocket Force.

"The Type 001A is an improved version of the Type 001 Liaoning, so the similarity and experience can largely speed things up," Song said.

China has started testing the power system of its first domestically-built aircraft carrier, and hopes to begin a mooring test in September ahead of schedule, Hu Wenming, the CSIC Chairman who has chaired the research and development of the Type 001A, was quoted as saying on a China Central Television report. The Type 001A was launched in Dalian on April 26.
 

Figaro

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Figaro a bit of advice before you post please check the previous page because they have been posted before No need to waste bandwidth!
I see a lot of duplication in your post on the same thread some one else posted the same pic or article
The second picture was alread posted ... sorry :( ... but the first was not. Unfortunately, I cannot delete the repetitive picture. The first is completely new though.
 
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