CV-16 Liaoning (001 carrier) Thread II ...News, Views and operations

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Sczepan

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On its way to Syria I saw a video of Kuznetsow showing the hangar opening of the aft elevator from below. I saw a wall dividing the aft part of the hangar. That means, they cut space and the hangar is smaller now. The Chinese could do the same and use hangar space for other things like storage or accomodation.

I searched the internet for the video but couldn't find it again.
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at 1:02 ?
 

Intrepid

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Those are call firedoors and like the name suggest is used to close and isolate sections of the hangar in the event of a serious fire in the hangar bay.
I know them from other carriers but have never seen on the Kuznetsov. Seems to be curtains closing from the top and not walls closing from the sides:

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In red the rear elevator door:
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The aft part behind that curtain:
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kwaigonegin

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I know them from other carriers but have never seen on the Kuznetsov. Seems to be curtains closing from the top and not walls closing from the sides:

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In red the rear elevator door:
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The aft part behind that curtain:
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Quite possibly. But be it pull down or sliding they serve the same function which is fire isolation. Obviously with the pull down they are not as heavy or bulky, takes up less space but downside is not as effective or robust in fire containment.
 

AeroEngineer

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Two elevators that are used. And four elevators, which are no longer in operation.

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Why are the four ammo elevators at the front no longer in operation?

Thanks

BTW, this is a clearly a bad design ! How can they load the fighters when they are parked right on top of the elevators ?

The 4 front elevators make more sense !
 
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An inert missile is positioned to be loaded on a J-15 with what appears to be a weapons loader.

As a former USN aviation ordananceman I can state that weapons loaders are the slow way to load weapons aboard ship. The USN only uses weapons loaders this size ashore. More compact weapons loaders are used aboard ship...

Even though it is 2017 the USN still loads most of its weapons like this;

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ARABIAN GULF (Oct. 4, 2016) Sailors assigned to the aircraft carrier USS Dwight D. Eisenhower (CVN 69) load ordnance onto an F/A-18E Super Hornet assigned to the Gunslingers of Strike Fighter Squadron (VFA) 105. (U.S. Navy photo by Petty Officer 3rd Class Nathan T. Beard/Released)
 

Intrepid

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The aircraft seem to be parked in an unusal way on the bow - let me say for Russian or Chinese unusual: they look diagonally parked. This means that more aircraft can be parked or a larger number of aircraft can be recovered from a mission in a single landing phase.
 
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