CV-16 Liaoning (001 carrier) Thread II ...News, Views and operations

[kwaigonegin]

Therein lies the difference between eastern and western cultures. Even in 90s, when Chinese armies and navies were overseas (albeit in a much smaller way), they were separated from the locals with only managed interactions. Whereas US, for example, armed forces are allowed to go out and mix with the locals. This invariably means the entertainment centres and brothels and associated conflicts. You can see Vietnam, Philippines and Okinawa as examples. While the western outlook is that these men needs to let out stress and bad things will happen if these stress are bottled. I am unable to say this also happens to Asian armed forces but traditionally those stresses are meant to be suppressed. But perhaps now it has become politically incorrect?

I'm not going to go into the political aspect however I don't think it's a bad thing for military personnels to interact with the locals during peacetime when they are out on liberty, TDY etc.

Do bad incidents happen? of course they do however I believe that in the long run it makes for good PR and it allows the locals to look at them more as 'humans' as oppose to strictly some foreign military force. The good outweighs the bad.. not to mention there is the economic aspect as well.

 

[Jeff Head]

I think 1-2 055s, 2-3 052Ds, and 4 054As (and a 093B) would do just fine for a CV-16 escort for now.

Perhaps for a war time escort...but in peace time it is too much.

1 x Type 055
2 x Type 052D/C
2 x Type 054A

Would be more than enough.

 

[Jeff Head]

Can't wait to see what you got for us MwRYum.

Nice pics as the Liaoning comes into Hong Kong, with a Type 056 and a Type 052D thrown in for good measure:



Impressive. The PLAN needs o make more foreign port calls like this and show their CCSG off. I'd love to see it go to San Diego, New York, London, places in the Med, etc.

 

[antiterror13]

Perhaps for a war time escort...but in peace time it is too much.

1 x Type 055
2 x Type 052D/C
2 x Type 054A

Would be more than enough.

and 1x 093B?

 

[antiterror13]

Very good publicity for Chinese

A good move by China to showcase its naval prowess

All in all 10/10 for this move

I counted "only" 8 J-15s on the deck and not sure in the hangar ... I only saw one J-15

 

[Hendrik_2000]

All good thing must come to an end
"With pomp and accompaniment of dragon dance send off ceremony of Liaoning" Good by

 

[Intrepid]

I counted "only" 8 J-15s on the deck and not sure in the hangar ... I only saw one J-15

The aircraft in the hangar was one of eight:

These are on board the ship:
#122
#121
#120
#119
#116
#114
#113
#111


These remain on land:
#115
#112
#110
#109
#108
#107
#106
#105
#104
#103
#102
#101
#100


These are destroyed:
#118
#117

 

[Jeff Head]

and 1x 093B?

Yes...certainly one SSN would and should accompany the CV...even in peace time IMHO.

In war, there should be at least two.

 

[Jeff Head]

The aircraft in the hangar was one of eight:

The Chinese...in losing those two J-15s...are learning what every nation that does a lot of exercises with its carriers learns.

it is a dangerous business. They have built 23 production J-15s so far, and lost 2 of them. almost ten percent.

The US loses a lot of aircraft over the years. Most of the time the pilots eject and are safe...but not always.

But...if you want to have an effective, well trained, and efficient and capable carrier force...this is part of the price for it.

God rest their brave souls.

 

[by78]

Some high-resolution photos of various details on the Liaoning...

Jet blast deflector:

Device for propping up landing cables: