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Strangelove

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Two-thirds of Japanese people don’t believe the Tokyo Olympics can be held safely during the Covid-19 pandemic, a new poll has shown. Infections were recorded in the Olympic Village just days before the games are set to begin.

In the poll by the Asahi Shimbun newspaper, 68% of respondents expressed doubt that organizers can ensure “safe and secure” games, with 55% saying they were opposed to the major sport event going ahead, as compared to 33% who were in favor of the games.
The news comes after two South African athletes and a video analyst tested positive for Covid-19 in the Olympic Village on Sunday.
 

supersnoop

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Things are really bad in Indonesia. Hopefully, the government can get it under control soon.
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Everyone knew it is premature to remove mask mandate but Biden still wanted to do it just for the economy.

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Sinopharm looks to be pretty popular in Thailand even though Sinovac got a lot of bad press lately.
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Bahrain cases dropped after mini-lockdown for two weeks and before a third dose rollout. In addition, both UAE and Bahrain allow people to choose Sinopharm or Pfizer for their third dose so it is hard to say mixing vaccines would help.

I think a better case study would be in the EU as many European nations are offering second dose of Pfizer or Moderna after the first dose of AstraZeneca. Thailand is also doing Sinovac and AstraZeneca mixing. We will have more evdience in a few weeks. But things don't look good for EU so mixing is not that effective. Although providing a third dose booster of any kind would probably help to reduce infections and deaths.

Sinovac is actually doing pretty well in Uruguay. However, Delta variant hasn't spread in Uruguary yet. Chile also is able to decrease its cases significantly after a small lockdown. Of course, Sinopharm is doing much better as MSM has stopped talking about Sinopharm and focus upon Sinovac as Hungary, Serbia, Bahrain, and UAE are able to contain the virus.

The surge is coming to EU soon. So we should have a good idea how well Pfizer fare compare with Sinopharm. The UK, Israel, and Spain have proven that Pfizer is not able to stop Delta variant from spreading. German, France, and Italy all have higher vaccination rate than Hungary and Serbia so we can compare how the surge affect them to make a fair comparison between Pfizer and Sinopharm.

Sinovac does seem to be working in South America at the moment, but it's looking like it has issues with Delta (like AstraZeneca).

I wonder if the Duerte's Sinopharm choice was an indirect vote of confidence elsewhere.

Problem is the need to bend over backwards to get people accommodating a third dose of any vaccine after saying only the "crappy" Chinese vaccines need a third dose. Reap what you sow...

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Hungary will likely go ahead with mixing all kinds of vaccines for boosters, interesting experiment. I don't think there are any other countries that have used all of Sinopharm, Sputnik, AZ, Pfizer, J&J, and Moderna. Maybe Mexico?

For me, and I have zero-medical background... my thinking was that maybe the mRNA vaccine could boost response to that particular target, and inactivated virus might have some sort of more "broad spectrum" response against something like a new variant.

Of note for other readers, although western media is lumping Sinovac and Sinopharm exports as "vaccine diplomacy", Sinovac is a private company (wanted to list on NASDAQ) and most of its exports are commercial sales. Sinopharm is SOE and the exports are mixed amongst donations and sales.
 

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Two-thirds of Japanese people don’t believe the Tokyo Olympics can be held safely during the Covid-19 pandemic, a new poll has shown. Infections were recorded in the Olympic Village just days before the games are set to begin.

In the poll by the Asahi Shimbun newspaper, 68% of respondents expressed doubt that organizers can ensure “safe and secure” games, with 55% saying they were opposed to the major sport event going ahead, as compared to 33% who were in favor of the games.
The news comes after two South African athletes and a video analyst tested positive for Covid-19 in the Olympic Village on Sunday.
There was also this news today
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Pretty big indictment.
 

taxiya

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All citizens in China has received at least one dose empirically.
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You can't interpret 1.45 billion that way. Lots of Chinese have taken two doses. The figure 1.45 billion is the total dosage administered including the fully vaccinated people, therefor the number of people who has received at least one dose is less than that.
 

Tyler

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You can't interpret 1.45 billion that way. Lots of Chinese have taken two doses. The figure 1.45 billion is the total dosage administered including the fully vaccinated people, therefor the number of people who has received at least one dose is less than that.
Are they still administering at the speed of 20 million doses per day?
 

Gatekeeper

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Freedumb day...

I'm lost for words. We are doing, I'll tell you. It's the Tories playing politics with our lives.

Britain’s Jaw-Dropping Stupidity is a Danger to the World

Britain’s Decided to Let Covid Rip, and the Consequences Will Be Disastrous. How Can Any Country Be This Foolish?


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