Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

[j17wang]

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According to Israel, the single dose appears to only be around 33% effective, a significant loss.

If the first dose is only 33% effective, there is no way a second dose will raise that to even close to 90%. I'm assuming end point efficacy will probably be in the 70's, and low 80's at most. Its all but given the west will be in a semi lockdown until at least july-august, with a not remote possibility that it may even face a third covid wave in Oct-2021.

 

[localizer]

If the first dose is only 33% effective, there is no way a second dose will raise that to even close to 90%. I'm assuming end point efficacy will probably be in the 70's, and low 80's at most. Its all but given the west will be in a semi lockdown until at least july-august, with a not remote possibility that it may even face a third covid wave in Oct-2021.

hard to say, this is why vaccine trials are usually longer to test these things.

The key to vaccination is the herd. Having 2 guys immunized with a 50% effective vaccine makes it 75% effective between the 2.

 

[NiuBiDaRen]

Thoughts on what Nathan Rich has to say?

 

[localizer]

Thoughts on what Nathan Rich has to say?

Meh don't buy into the lab made virus stuff. We must remain logical and start not from conclusions, but from blank slates.

 

[emblem21]

Meh don't buy into the lab made virus stuff. We must remain logical and start not from conclusions, but from blank slates.

hmmm, needs more evidence first but at least it is becoming less and less likely for the virus to have originated in China and and getting more and more likely to be originated in another location not that this justifies blame shifting but really it means that the west has got to stop kicking others down for something that isn't China's fault since really if it was up to them, well take a look at the UK and the fact that get no where near the criticism that China gets. If anything, this should be the year of retribution, not from China but where all the lies that the west is propagating about China come back to not only haunt them, but also bring them down hard as they simply will learn there lesson unless they really get hurt where it hurts most. If anything, it would be nice if the USA (the greatest propagator of all these lies gets the worst of it since they have and never will learn to stop being a bunch of hypocrites because of there media backing them and hiding the real truth. Hence why I hope this pandemic continues to be such a disaster in the USA because sooner or later, the media controllers are eventually going to get a good taste of karma one of these days.

 

[NiuBiDaRen]

Meh don't buy into the lab made virus stuff. We must remain logical and start not from conclusions, but from blank slates.

Did you watch the video or did you read the title only? I doubt I am the kind of person to randomly post conspiracy videos. Chinese Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying has already mentioned five times Fort Detrick in official press conferences. The Chinese foreign ministry doesn't randomly bring up places for no reason.

The fact that Chinese foreign ministry has already requested WHO to investigate Fort Detrick multiple times gives you some hints.

For those who are unaware, Fort Detrick is another name for the United States Army Biological Warfare Laboratories and the United States Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases. There was a safety breach in late 2019 which is officially documented but not reported in mainstream media.

For the record, I am not suggesting COVID came from Fort Detrick, but that WHO needs to investigate Fort Detrick due to multiple red flags.

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[emblem21]

Did you watch the video or did you read the title only? I doubt I am the kind of person to randomly post conspiracy videos. Chinese Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying has already mentioned five times Fort Detrick in official press conferences. The Chinese foreign ministry doesn't randomly bring up places for no reason.

The fact that Chinese foreign ministry has already requested WHO to investigate Fort Detrick multiple times gives you some hints.

For those who are unaware, Fort Detrick is another name for the United States Army Biological Warfare Laboratories and the United States Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases. There was a safety breach in late 2019 which is officially documented but not reported in mainstream media.

For the record, I am not suggesting COVID came from Fort Detrick, but that WHO needs to investigate Fort Detrick due to multiple red flags.

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Considering that the number of people dead from the flu in the USA is roughly 40k in 2019 and last year we don’t hear much on the flu except for the corona virus deaths with is well into the 300k. They even stated that the USA has found that some of the death from the flu have had covid symptoms. This does warrant some investigation and given that the USA has harped about covid being China’s fault due to bio leak yet having presented no proof of such, and that Trump knew of a pandemic in November of 2019

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That right there does indicate that no only the USA knows about the virus before hand, but they must have some hand in its creation (or maybe knew about it but didn’t tell anyone about it so they use it against China, but it ended up backfiring, epically).
Hence given all the red flags and the sheer amount of deaths that dwarfs so many other nations, it would be worth a look to see if the USA is truly innocent in the matter (of this I believe they are guilty as hell given their tendency to use cowardly actions to harm other but only in these recent few years that it is starting to truly backfire)

 

[AssassinsMace]

Because Trump isn't President anymore looks like Trump has been lying and there's no vaccine left for Americans. It's unclear what that means. There was no plan how to distribute it and the initial order just ran out or Trump just didn't bother to buy more to resupply leaving Biden to deal with it? The initial order was before the election and apparently because he lost, he just didn't care to order more afterwards.

 

[ansy1968]

Because Trump isn't President anymore looks like Trump has been lying and there's no vaccine left for Americans. It's unclear what that means. There was no plan how to distribute it and the initial order just ran out or Trump just didn't bother to buy more to resupply leaving Biden to deal with it? The initial order was before the election and apparently because he lost, he just didn't care to order more afterwards.

@mace

That's a dereliction of duty and should be prosecuted. It seems like taking an oath is just for show.

 

[Sardaukar20]

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Fire broke out at a production facility of Serum Institute of India (SII). Claimed to be the world's largest vaccine producer. Currently mass-producing Astra Zeneca's Covishield.

Hmm... Is India gonna blame China for this?