Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

[solarz]

What i also want to know is, will we finally see a stop to the coronavirus induced hate crimes against asians?

Not a chance.

 

[vesicles]

Guys, please calm down about the mink SARS-Cov-2. Like any coronavirus, SARS-Cov-2 has been expected to infect multiple species, like human, cats, dogs, etc. Frankly, I would not believe you if you tell me that SARS-Cov-2 only infects human. That's just not natural.

At the beginning of this pandemic, we heard that several tigers at a NY zoo got infected and became sick and showing typical symptoms of COVID-19. And the caretakers of the tigers also got sick. Who knows who got the virus from whom... So this is fully expected.

We have no evidence that the strains in minks are functionally any different than the strains currently circulating among us. People freak out when they see "mutations". Mutations don't necessarily mean "bad". Vast majority of mutations don't actually change how a virus functions in any meaningful way. In fact, people now infected with the mink strains are simply showing the same symptoms typically seen with most people infected with SARS-Cov-2. And these mink strains are not new and they have been around since May. It's only that the Danish govn't is now openly admitting it. The mink strains are functionally no different than the human strains. Calm down.

 

[localizer]

I thoguth it was against rules of most places to come back with Alts?

 

[Quickie]

A new coronavirus has been identified from minks and can infect humans have been found in Denmark. Its interesting how the scientists can't agree on how serious the problem is and whether it should be a cause of concern in its ability to infect humans and yet they were quick to point the finger at China for dithering around iun the early stages

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The Danish government has ordered the slaughter of all farmed mink in the country after the reported discovery of a mutant form of coronavirus in the animals. It has already spread to humans.

What do we know about the situation in Denmark?

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, 207 mink farms have seen infections of coronavirus. The authorities have failed to contain the virus, and all 17 million farmed mink in Denmark will now be culled, said Denmark’s prime minister Mette Frederiksen at a press briefing on 5 November. Denmark has the world’s largest mink industry.





The Danish prime minister described the mutated virus as “a serious risk to public health and to the development of a vaccine.” However, health minister Magnus Heunicke told the press briefing that there is no sign yet that the mutant virus causes more serious symptoms of covid-19.

Some areas of northern Jutland – the region of Denmark that connects to the European mainland – will be isolated to stop the spread of the virus in humans. Frederiksen said a “mutant” virus has been identified in five farms and 12 people have become infected with it.

What sort of mutant?

We don’t know for sure. There is no scientific publication about it. According to the newspaper report, the Danish State Serum Institute says the virus is sufficiently different from other circulating strains to mean that a vaccine may not work against it, though there is no information on the Institute’s website and it has not yet responded to New Scientist’s requests for comment. Up to now all circulating strains are thought to be

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The newspaper also said that the 12 infected people “have been found to have an impaired reaction to antibodies.” It is not clear what this means. It could be a mistranslation of “antibody response”, which could mean that the 12 individuals are producing previously unseen antibodies. That would strengthen the claim that the mutant virus may evade a vaccine.


Can mink really catch the coronavirus?

Yes. There are already

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of farmed mink in the Netherlands catching it from humans. And in June

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after the virus was detected in fur farms.

Can mink pass it to humans?

Yes. One of those

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says that at least one worker on a mink farm caught the virus from the animals. The worker showed only mild respiratory disease.

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What do scientists say?

Francois Balloux, a professor of genetics at University College London (UCL), took to Twitter to

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as “highly problematic”. He said his colleague Lucy van Dorp at UCL has already documented numerous coronavirus mutants arising repeatedly in mink, none of which are concerning for humans. The claim that this strain may be resistant to a vaccine is “idiotic”, he said. Such mutations might emerge in humans once we have a vaccine but won’t appear in mink, he said.

Other scientists echoed his views. James Wood at the University of Cambridge in the UK, said he understands that the mutation is on the spike protein, which the virus uses to enter cells and which induces an antibody response. However, “the true implication of the changes in the spike protein have not yet been evaluated by the international scientific community and are thus unclear. It is too early to say that the change will cause either vaccines or immunity to fail,” he said in a statement.

Virologist Ian Jones at the University of Reading in the UK, said that it was not surprising that the virus had mutated, as it would need to adapt to mink. Denmark’s precautionary action would make it less likely that the new virus would spread widely in humans, he said in a statement.

Is the virus likely to spread to other animals?

Yes, very. More than

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are known to be definitely or probably susceptible, ranging from gorillas and chimps to foxes, yaks, giant pandas and koalas. Even some whales, dolphins and seals may be able to catch it.

Why did nobody see this coming?

We did. Even before this happened, virologists were concerned about “

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”, which is when humans pass the virus on to domestic or wild animals. That could be a problem for the animals as some species fall ill and die. It could also spell trouble for us, as animals could become a new reservoir of virus and make the pandemic even harder to control. Animals could also be a crucible for the virus to mutate into another novel coronavirus.



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The scientists never said anything about human to human transmission of this coronavirus. It will be pretty major if this is proven to have happened between the farmers, and the virus has somehow slipped out of the farms to the rest of the country.

 

[vesicles]

The scientists never said anything about human to human transmission of this coronavirus. It will be pretty major if this is proven to have happened between the farmers, and the virus has somehow slipped out of the farms to the rest of the country.

It will be shocking to me IF the mink strain somehow has lost its ability to transmit between human. Keep in mind that the mink strain came from our human strain that has been effective transmitting among human. IF somehow the virus has mutated enough to lose its ability to transmit among human, it will be incredible and unbelievable. As I've said before, this is the same virus that has been happily living among us for the past year. If it is still the same virus, it will naturally transmit among people. Nothing has changed.

 

[B.I.B.]

Guys, please calm down about the mink SARS-Cov-2. Like any coronavirus, SARS-Cov-2 has been expected to infect multiple species, like human, cats, dogs, etc. Frankly, I would not believe you if you tell me that SARS-Cov-2 only infects human. That's just not natural.

At the beginning of this pandemic, we heard that several tigers at a NY zoo got infected and became sick and showing typical symptoms of COVID-19. And the caretakers of the tigers also got sick. Who knows who got the virus from whom... So this is fully expected.

We have no evidence that the strains in minks are functionally any different than the strains currently circulating among us. People freak out when they see "mutations". Mutations don't necessarily mean "bad". Vast majority of mutations don't actually change how a virus functions in any meaningful way. In fact, people now infected with the mink strains are simply showing the same symptoms typically seen with most people infected with SARS-Cov-2. And these mink strains are not new and they have been around since May. It's only that the Danish govn't is now openly admitting it. The mink strains are functionally no different than the human strains. Calm down.

They discovered it in June. My bitch is they have kept it low key until now. Look at the, roasting China received from the West for hushing things up for couple of weeks. first heard of this on the radio Wednesaday nightwhere it was suggested from reports that it had already been found in other countries Futhermore, China has a large mink industry.

 

[B.I.B.]

It will be shocking to me IF the mink strain somehow has lost its ability to transmit between human. Keep in mind that the mink strain came from our human strain that has been effective transmitting among human. IF somehow the virus has mutated enough to lose its ability to transmit among human, it will be incredible and unbelievable. As I've said before, this is the same virus that has been happily living among us for the past year. If it is still the same virus, it will naturally transmit among people. Nothing has changed.

But they can change. I am not to sure whether it was yourself who said Covid 19 might have been circulating around years before becoming more virulent. In the article I posted. scientists have already acknowledged the possibility of infecting other species of animals. Think of the economic damage it would cause if it resulted in swine flu proportions amongst other farmed animals.

 

[Quickie]

It will be shocking to me IF the mink strain somehow has lost its ability to transmit between human. Keep in mind that the mink strain came from our human strain that has been effective transmitting among human. IF somehow the virus has mutated enough to lose its ability to transmit among human, it will be incredible and unbelievable. As I've said before, this is the same virus that has been happily living among us for the past year. If it is still the same virus, it will naturally transmit among people. Nothing has changed.

" Keep in mind that the mink strain came from our human strain that has been effective transmitting among human. "

The report wasn't being clear whether the mink strain originated from a COVID-19 strain.

AFAIK, the WHO has never reported any case of human getting infected with a strain of COVID-19 from an animal. If this is indeed happening in some Danish farms, this is major news, and we should hear a big announcement from WHO very soon.

 

[B.I.B.]

AS a dairy farmer I can be exposed to these viruses They include anthrax, brucellosis, cryptosporidiosis, dermatophilosis, Escherichia coli, giardiasis, leptospirosis, listeriosis, pseudocowpox, Q fever, rabies, ringworm, salmonellosis, tuberculosis, and vesicular stomatitis. Sp whats another one ehhh?

 

[vesicles]

But they can change. I am not to sure whether it was yourself who said Covid 19 might have been circulating around years before becoming more virulent. In the article I posted. scientists have already acknowledged the possibility of infecting other species of animals. Think of the economic damage it would cause if it resulted in swine flu proportions amongst other farmed animals.

Yes, I believe I said it in an earlier post. In terms of mutations, anything can happen. Nothing serious has happened yet. Chances are some weird virus might adopt a mutation that makes them super bugs and destroy mankind. But we can't live our lives assuming such thing will happen...