Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

[Quickie]

So what. This is just precautionary measure.

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That doesn't sound good.

The doctors wouldn't have simply given oxygen to the president just for a precautionary measure. Given additional oxygen to a person with a normal level of oxygen in his body can be very dangerous.

The doctors must have detected a lower level of oxygen in his body before putting him on oxygen.

Seems like he's okay now with rest but if he gets out of breath just by walking a short distance (like from the helicopter to the hospital?), it's not too good news in regard to his lung fighting the infection.

 

[emblem21]

What a coincidence!

I too like countries so much that I promote separatism and sedition in their populace. What better way to profess my love for a country than to encourage the start a balkanization process that could lead to the undoing of their entire nation and end with millions of their people dead?

Oh wait. I'm not psychotic. Sorry Mr Snake, you're on your own here.

In all honestly Mr T, let’s see how the shining example of democracy handles itself In The next two months because as it stands, they are quite similar to you, too scared to admit the real truth, that while China’s system may have flaws, they still kept marching along and all of this without starting any wars. The USA On The other hand is in this much trouble, because there system is much more flawed then that of China’s and are butterly divided and still playing the blame game like a bunch of HK infants with an American flag up their ass. End of story. If next month is any indication, no truly strong nation resorts to the unhandled actions that the USA has conducted. As of now, it will take one more disaster for the USA will SINK, just like your name sake in regards to that actor who I haven’t heard much from and is quite convinced has stated in anything much at all

 

[ansy1968]

In all honestly Mr T, let’s see how the shining example of democracy handles itself In The next two months because as it stands, they are quite similar to you, too scared to admit the real truth, that while China’s system may have flaws, they still kept marching along and all of this without starting any wars. The USA On The other hand is in this much trouble, because there system is much more flawed then that of China’s and are butterly divided and still playing the blame game like a bunch of HK infants with an American flag up their ass. End of story. If next month is any indication, no truly strong nation resorts to the unhandled actions that the USA has conducted. As of now, it will take one more disaster for the USA will SINK, just like your name sake in regards to that actor who I haven’t heard much from and is quite convinced has stated in anything much at all

Hi emblem21,

The Chinese should trade mark the word "PEACEFUL RISE", They had shown that its not a myth and there is an alternative peaceful path for NATION BUILDING and rejuvenation.

 

[emblem21]

Hi emblem21,

The Chinese should trade mark the word "PEACEFUL RISE", They had shown that its not a myth and there is an alternative peaceful path for NATION BUILDING and rejuvenation.

True enough, and I see that this works better then a system that promotes individualism to the point of self destruction. Just look at Trump for more details on what hyper individualism does to people, it quite literally destroys countless lives while the only excuse offered is ‘it is what it is’. The worse part is that the majority accept this while in a normal society, there would be expect to have severe punishments, not slaps on the wrist

 

[Mr T]

In all honestly Mr T, let’s see how the shining example of democracy handles itself In The next two months

I don't think that the US is the best example of democracy. If it was, it would have abolished the electoral college by now and just had a straight vote for the presidency. Of course it's easier said than done, but the fact the EC still exists is a flaw and not something that should be replicated elsewhere.

I'm also not in favour of presidential systems (where the head of state has most of the power) generally.

while China’s system may have flaws, they still kept marching along and all of this without starting any wars

Apart from attacking UN forces in Korea and seeking to help the North conquer the ROK (pushing way over the 39th parallel and only being stopped by a UN counterattack), attacking India and Vietnam - and threatening Taiwan with invasion despite the islands not being a threat to China.

Sure, the PRC hasn't undertaken as many military conflicts as the US has done in the same time period. However, that's largely because the PRC hasn't had the military muscle to do so, and equally reached an understanding with the US during the Cold War that meant it felt less threatened. How China acts over the next 50 years will be more telling.

Also, and here's the main point, a person can disapprove of US policy and Chinese policy at the same time. Even if we agreed that up until now the US has caused more conflicts than the PRC, the US being bad doesn't excuse the PRC's behaviour.

As of now, it will take one more disaster for the USA will SINK

I mean that's been a prediction of Chinese nationalists on this forum since I've ever been here.

just like your name sake in regards to that actor who I haven’t heard much from and is quite convinced has stated in anything much at all

Lol, "I've" been retired for ages. One of the benefits of a successful career is being able to punch out before you're 60.

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In other news, Trump is saying he's doing "well" (biggly well?) but that the next few days will be the real test.

 

[Gatekeeper]

Apart from declaring war on the UN in 1950 in Korea, attacking Tibet in the same year, attacking India in 1962 and attacking Vietnam in 1979 - and threatening Taiwan with invasion despite the islands not being a threat to China.

I mean, sure the PRC hasn't undertaken as many military conflicts as the US has done in the same time period. However, that's largely because the PRC hasn't had the military muscle to do so, and equally reached an understanding with the US during the Cold War that meant it felt less threatened. How China acts over the next 50 years will be more telling.

Also, and here's the main point, a person can disapprove of US policy and Chinese policy at the same time. Even if we agreed that up until now the US has caused more conflicts than the PRC, it doesn't mean anything because it doesn't excuse the PRC's behaviour.

Come on, I know you have the mind gymnastics skills equivalent to Olga korbet. But even this beat Olga hands down. Kudos to you for framing it sound like China is the belligerent equivalent to the mighty USA.
When in reality China isn't anywhere near close. And then to frame it as"Because China don't possess the power necessary, otherwise it will be a lot worse than USA. Really!

If you are going to frame China is the big bad ass, worse than the USA. Then at least get your facts right.

Attacking Tibet. Well according to international norm. Tibet is recognised as part of China. So the attacking bit is framed to sound like China is the belligerent actor. When we all know China had a separatist uprising with foreign USA help. China has every right to defend its sovereignty.

And re-writing history on India really doesn't suit you.

Just as re-writing history on Taiwan to make it sound like China is the belligerent again is beyond anyone's comprehension. You're either ignorance or just plain propagandists. I think you do know the civil war is not officially over. And Taiwan have threatened to reunite China under it's wing. Indeed, Taiwan's official title is the republic of China. But you know that. You are just being plain manipulative to get your point across (I'm writing here for members from other countries who might not know this).

You also know because Taiwan is China and was recognised as such. Taiwan was the sole representative of the UN at the time when US orchestrated an alliance under the UN umbrella. When PRC China didn't even have a voice. (1/5th of man kind excluded from the so-called UN. So much for democracy). So when China felt threatened by US march upward towards China. China reacted defensively. But again, you knew this. Again I'm just writing for the younger members.

Finally, Vietnam. I'm not too clued up on the politics of this. Perhaps someone else can help me out. All I know it was to stop Vietnam's aggression towards China's allies Cambodia. And as you keep telling us a treaty obligation to defend allies. Blah blah.blah.

Lol, I've been retired for ages. One of the benefits of a successful career is being able to punch out before you're 60.

Now giving you're, how should I put it, of a vintage age, and having been around a few blocks. And seen a lot in your life. Your memories of historical facts seems lacking.

 

[free_6ix9ine]

@Deino Can you ban this obvious troll from India? @Mr T

 

[Nobonita Barua]

Amount of Hollywood mixed bs is too high.

I don't think that the US is the best example of democracy.

US hasn't been any democracy. In fact it doesn't have any characteristics of any country. Democracy doesn't exist. I would very much like to invite our friend to show us how this magical lamp functions.

Apart from attacking UN forces in Korea and seeking to help the North conquer the ROK (pushing way over the 39th parallel and only being stopped by a UN counterattack), attacking India and Vietnam - and threatening Taiwan with invasion despite the islands not being a threat to China.

UN forces? Is it same UN that was ignored in 2001? Is it the same country that thinks it can rule over ICJ?
Apart from invasion of native America, South, Guam , Hawaii, this problem has been involved in Invasion of Philippine, Cambodia, Nicaragua, Guatemala.
I can also remember certain "humanitarian theory " in Syria. I also can remember political Assassinations in broad daylight.

the PRC hasn't undertaken as many military conflicts as the US has done in the same time period. However, that's largely because the PRC hasn't had the military muscle to do so

Another of those alien defeating earth defending farce.
It was Germans who discovered fission, it was them who discovered missiles.
US was this close to become history. US couldn't do anything to Russia despite huffing and puffing strongly with mouth.
Second world war was most devastating in recent memory. It left a lot of nations vulnerable & ruined. US simply took advantage of it.
As I see it, US owes its entire fluffy muscles to German defectors.
But one nation's inability doesn't become ability of the other.
US could never really translate its "donated muscle " into gut

China acts over the next 50 years will be more telling.

China has full support of us if it wants to do to the Brits, USians what they have done. I don't think you will find a single people opposing that.

the US being bad doesn't excuse the PRC's behaviour.

No. It doesn't. But justice delayed is justice denied. People colonized by Brits, French, Spaniards, native Americans, Guam, Hawaii, Nicaragua, Guatemala, Philippine, Cambodia, people of Iraq, Syria, Libya, Afghanistan want to have a chat with lil leaders.
Just remember that, democracy is by the people, of the people, for the people. I didn't say it.
There will be no further native America turning into Naughty America, no Hiroshima, no Nagasaki, no huhu rights concern & specially there will be no repeat of Kent state saga.

We thank you for your service.
As of now, you are relieved of your concerned leadership duty.
You are no longer required by the World.


Sit tight & stand by for the verdict.

 

[plawolf]

I don't know if it is part of the election law process, but outgoing governments don't introduce new policy initiatives and generally act in consultation with an incoming government.

As Trump has shown, a lot of these conventions are more honour code rules rather than actual laws.

 

[Gatekeeper]

It's great to see Wuhan back to health and vitality. Who would've thought back in Feb this year, that China is back to normal by Oct, and the richest countries in the world would still be struggling to cope with this virus.

Hardwork from the Chinese and leadership when it's needed the most!