Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

AssassinsMace

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Saw something on CNN today. Caught only part of it where it said China had a COVID-19 test that only take 5 minutes and an accuracy rate of at least 82% which is supposedly good. Can't tell what's considered good when the West was laughing at the accuracy of China's earlier testing kits when it turns out Western produced ones were worse performing especially those from the US hence why it took so long to come out with one and still questioned on how accurate. They were talking to some FDA guy so I don't know if they were just talking to him as an expert or the FDA was actually testing it out for themselves..
 

Hendrik_2000

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China pass historic test according to Xi
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China passed 'extraordinary' virus test, says bullish Xi

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September 8, 2020, 3:04 AM CDT
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Chinese President Xi Jinping (C) hands a medal to Zhong Nanshan (L) -- the country's most famous medical expert who emerged as the face of China's fight against Covid-19

China has passed "an extraordinary and historic test" with its handling of the coronavirus, President Xi Jinping said Tuesday at a triumphant awards ceremony for medical professionals decorated with bugle calls and applause.
The nation's propaganda machine has churned out praise for the Chinese government's Covid-19 response, reframing the public health crisis as an example of the agility and organisation of the Communist leadership.
Xi doled out gold medals to four "heroes" from the medical field in front of hundreds of applauding delegates on Tuesday, all wearing face masks and strikingly large red flower pins.
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I seem to have completely missed out on this piece of news from back in May.

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35% OF ITALIANS HAD RECOVERED FROM COVID-19 AS OF OCTOBER 2019!


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ENGLISH TRANSLATION OF THE TRANSCRIPT

Well dear friends I give you very good news, very very interesting of the kind I synthesize and, as usual, like all the news I provide through my channel, it is still trustworthy news and news which that you yourselves can immediately verify aftterwards, to see that it’s not fake news, but it is real news supported by concrete evidence.

So, still on the coronavirus we have a nice surprise that’s what it is a very serious study has been done that is much credited status abroad, for example also by the Telegraph. It is a study that has been done by Dr. Paschale Mario Bacco together to a team of 13 doctors, of which he was the scientific director and this study began in February at Rome.

What they found out through this study
Now, it’s a seriologic study: that technique that by now you’ve already heard and that you already know. Let’s say the dynamic of this test is a kit used to determine the presence of antibodies in the human body for coronavirus, that is if the person has already been infected and if there are any antibodies and whether his body it’s no longer like saying infectious.

Having conducted this study and from which it emerged precisely that — you hold on tight — 35% of Italians in October of 2019 had already been infected and were already cured of the coronavirus, not with medical intervention and all that entails.

For Dr. Bacco, this was serious research. He is not one to get up in the morning and say things with no basis.

This study established — this is the study was done from north to south in all the cities of Italy — and it has emerged that for instance Brescia the positives already healed with presences antibodies were 45 percent then the 41 percent going down to a 29 per cent in Sicily for a total total national level of 35 percent of the population in October 2019.

Again exactly the opposite of what is always stopped the chief, Dr. Burioni, and all the doctors around him — let’s call them in the government line up to Pharmaceutical Companies as you want — so you’ve already figured out of what I am speaking.

So I’m talking about this study. Now he has revealed another part that many of us alredy heard about but here you always have to have of the revelations and rightly to scientific level with studies but not with studies like study has done.

There also emerge that the number of deaths that they’ve always shown us is bogus and bogus because as explained by Dr. Bacco, this virus is basically potentially lethal — as we’ve already figured out — for very old debilitated people or for people maybe not old but very debilitated by serious illness. So the virus is not lethal for people, say in healthy conditions, with healthy organisms. As were in fact always the subjects of this study that the major subjects studied were people in an age group ranging from 18 to 35 years old, i.e. people who already had viruses in October have not presented symptoms or have presented symptoms by very slight in turn these people on the way home they infected the weaker, more sensitive people. And from this have been those disasters that we know of.

Another thing that has emerged from the study what a virus then we were wondering why in Lombardy there happened this disaster, and not in the South.

It didn’t come out of one study: because they have tried increase the temperatures in the let’s say greenhouses where they grew the virus and have realized that the virus is susceptible to temperature, humidity and of the so-called dusts thin which increase the contagion of virus because they carry it.

In, Lombardy, Northern Italy, let’s say in general, where there are many industries and much smog, the virus itself is, as Dr. Bacco said, indicative of a virus that has a very high capacity contagion. This very high capacity of contagion has been further enhanced by the presence of these fine powders, carrying a sack of contagions. Now this combined with the fact that even here he said exactly the opposite of the one who’s always supported the curious claims that the smog had nothing to do with it was all bullshit and all that.

Another thing is precisely the heat because the heat modifies the virus and makes it less
aggressive and less contagious too, but the cold makes it more contagious.

It is a most aggressive virus, but he said it was aggressive it is a virus that’s not bad anyway is not potentially fatal, does not have this compared to, say, the virus of aids, which is completely different has a much stronger structure. It has been 35 years that they have been looking for AIDS vaccines and there are no AIDS vaccines because even if that is the virus you’re vaccinating for today, in two months it’s of no use because it’s already modified its features exactly like coronavirus.
 

shanlung

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I seem to have completely missed out on this piece of news from back in May.

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35% OF ITALIANS HAD RECOVERED FROM COVID-19 AS OF OCTOBER 2019!


The comments in this video are made on the basis of the news reported in many newspapers, as regards the medical study conducted by a team of 13 specialists, under the direction of Dr. Pasquale Mario Bacco, such as,

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ENGLISH TRANSLATION OF THE TRANSCRIPT

Well dear friends I give you very good news, very very interesting of the kind I synthesize and, as usual, like all the news I provide through my channel, it is still trustworthy news and news which that you yourselves can immediately verify aftterwards, to see that it’s not fake news, but it is real news supported by concrete evidence.

So, still on the coronavirus we have a nice surprise that’s what it is a very serious study has been done that is much credited status abroad, for example also by the Telegraph. It is a study that has been done by Dr. Paschale Mario Bacco together to a team of 13 doctors, of which he was the scientific director and this study began in February at Rome.

What they found out through this study
Now, it’s a seriologic study: that technique that by now you’ve already heard and that you already know. Let’s say the dynamic of this test is a kit used to determine the presence of antibodies in the human body for coronavirus, that is if the person has already been infected and if there are any antibodies and whether his body it’s no longer like saying infectious.

Having conducted this study and from which it emerged precisely that — you hold on tight — 35% of Italians in October of 2019 had already been infected and were already cured of the coronavirus, not with medical intervention and all that entails.

For Dr. Bacco, this was serious research. He is not one to get up in the morning and say things with no basis.

This study established — this is the study was done from north to south in all the cities of Italy — and it has emerged that for instance Brescia the positives already healed with presences antibodies were 45 percent then the 41 percent going down to a 29 per cent in Sicily for a total total national level of 35 percent of the population in October 2019.

Again exactly the opposite of what is always stopped the chief, Dr. Burioni, and all the doctors around him — let’s call them in the government line up to Pharmaceutical Companies as you want — so you’ve already figured out of what I am speaking.

So I’m talking about this study. Now he has revealed another part that many of us alredy heard about but here you always have to have of the revelations and rightly to scientific level with studies but not with studies like study has done.

There also emerge that the number of deaths that they’ve always shown us is bogus and bogus because as explained by Dr. Bacco, this virus is basically potentially lethal — as we’ve already figured out — for very old debilitated people or for people maybe not old but very debilitated by serious illness. So the virus is not lethal for people, say in healthy conditions, with healthy organisms. As were in fact always the subjects of this study that the major subjects studied were people in an age group ranging from 18 to 35 years old, i.e. people who already had viruses in October have not presented symptoms or have presented symptoms by very slight in turn these people on the way home they infected the weaker, more sensitive people. And from this have been those disasters that we know of.

Another thing that has emerged from the study what a virus then we were wondering why in Lombardy there happened this disaster, and not in the South.

It didn’t come out of one study: because they have tried increase the temperatures in the let’s say greenhouses where they grew the virus and have realized that the virus is susceptible to temperature, humidity and of the so-called dusts thin which increase the contagion of virus because they carry it.

In, Lombardy, Northern Italy, let’s say in general, where there are many industries and much smog, the virus itself is, as Dr. Bacco said, indicative of a virus that has a very high capacity contagion. This very high capacity of contagion has been further enhanced by the presence of these fine powders, carrying a sack of contagions. Now this combined with the fact that even here he said exactly the opposite of the one who’s always supported the curious claims that the smog had nothing to do with it was all bullshit and all that.

Another thing is precisely the heat because the heat modifies the virus and makes it less
aggressive and less contagious too, but the cold makes it more contagious.

It is a most aggressive virus, but he said it was aggressive it is a virus that’s not bad anyway is not potentially fatal, does not have this compared to, say, the virus of aids, which is completely different has a much stronger structure. It has been 35 years that they have been looking for AIDS vaccines and there are no AIDS vaccines because even if that is the virus you’re vaccinating for today, in two months it’s of no use because it’s already modified its features exactly like coronavirus.


I am not too sure of recovery.

Or did they join the ranks of long haulers?

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supersnoop

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I enjoy the subtle digs and insidious messaging used by the above news article

China has passed "an extraordinary and historic test" with its handling of the coronavirus, President Xi Jinping said Tuesday at a triumphant awards ceremony for medical professionals decorated with bugle calls and applause.
The nation's propaganda machine has churned out praise for the Chinese government's Covid-19 response, reframing the public health crisis as an example of the agility and organisation of the Communist leadership.

Could easily be written without that 2nd sentence, but need to talk about propaganda, ironically enough.

Looking at the current situation around the world the past little while (for places that have largely dealt effectively with Covid).
Small outbreaks around Asia (Vietnam, HK, Thailand), a little larger in SK. Small outbreaks in AU/NZ, Slight case increases in Canada
Huge outbreaks in Europe

I suspected was that Wuhan was just the first detected outbreak, and Covid (the disease) likely originated from elsewhere (even if the ancestral virus can be traced back to China). This theory seems to be more plausible with the actual research being done. With how the second wave is being played out (largely in Europe), could the actual disease's origin be from Europe?

Haven't heard from @vesicles in a while. Wonder if he could shine some light on it.
 

Quickie

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I am not too sure of recovery.

Or did they join the ranks of long haulers?

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I was trying to point out the huge implication of the discovery.

35% of Italians having COVID-19 antibodies as of October 2019 would mean that the virus had already existed in Italy a few months before October 2019, and the Italians were infected with COVID-19 long before the virus was discovered in China.
 

Hendrik_2000

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The much hyped Oxford vaccine suffer serious setback one of the participant suffer severe side effect the trial is on HOLD!


COVID vaccine trials at Oxford University suffers setback after participant's suspected severe adverse reaction
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COVID vaccine trials at Oxford University suffers setback after participant's suspected severe adverse reaction
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Published: 08/09/2020Updated: 8 September 2020 5:44 pm

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Trials for a leading contender for a potential coronavirus vaccine have been put on hold following a setback.
A participant in the Oxford University’s AstraZeneca vaccine suffered an adverse reaction, it was revealed on Wednesday.
The exact nature and severity of their reaction were not immediately known.
 

Gatekeeper

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China pass historic test according to Xi
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September 8, 2020, 3:04 AM CDT
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Chinese President Xi Jinping (C) hands a medal to Zhong Nanshan (L) -- the country's most famous medical expert who emerged as the face of China's fight against Covid-19

China has passed "an extraordinary and historic test" with its handling of the coronavirus, President Xi Jinping said Tuesday at a triumphant awards ceremony for medical professionals decorated with bugle calls and applause.
The nation's propaganda machine has churned out praise for the Chinese government's Covid-19 response, reframing the public health crisis as an example of the agility and organisation of the Communist leadership.
Xi doled out gold medals to four "heroes" from the medical field in front of hundreds of applauding delegates on Tuesday, all wearing face masks and strikingly large red flower pins.
(cont)

Motorcycle outriders escort these hero's to the great hall ofvtge people. Enjoy. Well deserved.

 
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