Let me reiterate: please don't post unsubstantiated conspiracy theories (like biological warfare origin for the virus) here please. Keep the conversations reasonable and professional. Thanks.
Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)
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If we bring up capability and motive then everyone has a beef with the other, and it does not prove anything on the US part beyond baseless accusations.
supercat
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I'm not sure "recovered" is the best word here. The patient could be partially recovered or completely recovered. A partially recovered patient, if discharged, could still be a danger of contagion to the community. Only completely and permanently recovered patients can be discharged. In that case, "cured" is probably the less ambiguous word.
They are probably developing monoclonal antibody therapy right now.
Like in an Agatha Christie novel: who has the motive AND the capability to do it?
solarz
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I don't know how anyone can think the novel coronavirus can be a biological attack.
Think about it for a minute, if it wasn't for the Chinese government's swift response, the virus would have spread across the world already. What sane strategist would use a weapon that can so easily turn against himself?
That's not even mentioning the absurdly low lethality of the virus. What kind of lame weapon has a 2% kill rate? And mostly old people at that?
Think about it for a minute, if it wasn't for the Chinese government's swift response, the virus would have spread across the world already. What sane strategist would use a weapon that can so easily turn against himself?
That's not even mentioning the absurdly low lethality of the virus. What kind of lame weapon has a 2% kill rate? And mostly old people at that?
solarz
Brigadier
Which doesn't make a lick of sense.
Imagine for a moment that the Chinese government, instead of swiftly locking down their cities, instead tried to cover up the outbreak and censor information.
The virus would be all over the world by now.
What sane strategist would use a weapon that can be so easily turned against themselves?
Can I interject on his behave if he doesn't have objections, strictly hypothetical speaking as a theoritical exercise of the mind, I would think that the organization or entity doing such a thing would already have a vaccine in place not to mention have developed appropriate treatments if not to 'save the day' then at least make sure from a risk migration standpoint it doesn't turn into a black swan event. As far as the RNA mutates faster/random angle, well a contingency plan would be to cancel all flights and do mandatory 14 day quarantine inside military bases maybe?
While China's lockdown was unexpected, they did lose a lot of ground/time in the beginning when the stage was most critical. All in all I would say it balances out?
"We also noticed that the only Asian donor (male) has a much higher ACE2-expressing cell ratio than white and African American donors (2.50% vs. 0.47% of all cells). This might explain the observation that the new Coronavirus pandemic and previous SARS-Cov pandemic are concentrated in the Asian area."
"The result indicates that the ACE2 virus receptor expression is concentrated in a small population of type II alveolar cells (AT2). Surprisingly, we found that this population of ACE2-expressing AT2 also highly expressed many other genes that positively regulating viral reproduction and transmission. A comparison between eight individual samples demonstrated that the Asian male one has an extremely large number of ACE2-expressing cells in the lung.”
solarz
Brigadier
So where is this vaccine? You don't think showing up with a vaccine a few months after a completely new virus turns up would be suspicious? Especially when no prior research leading up to the vaccine would have been published? You don't think the blow back from such a discovery would be far more damaging than any economic damage inflicted by the virus?
As for quarantine, how are you going to do that if the Chinese government covers up the outbreak? What would be your excuse? The lockdown on Wuhan happened on Jan 23rd, when the infection numbers were still only in the hundreds. The virus still went on to infect every province in China. If the outbreak was covered up, nobody would have had an inkling something was wrong before the virus had spread across the world.
There's a reason these kinds of biological attacks only happen in fiction.