Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)
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Note the new resolution is not expected to mention China specifically. So it means any country could be investigation. Will the US or any other country, if and when targeted for investigation, credible allow to be investigated?
I can understand where you are going with this, but the problem is China will still be the focus, or at least be made into the focus by us, aus and the gang. Whilst I am not pessimistic or defeatist, it is and will still be quite concerning. I mean the campaign by the gang has been going on for quite a while and have riled up a lot of people... even if the leaders or level headed peeps don't want to go there... they might not have a choice with pressure from their voters at least for the democracies which dominate the security council, whom really matters in the decisions. Tho I might be wrong on this as this is WHO I believe and I am not sure if structure is the same as UN.
So while it doesn't name China in particular this would be an opportunity for the hawks and the rest might be forced to follow not because of political pressure from the gang but from their voters and concerns for their own political career. After all self interest are a far stronger driver to action, right or wrong.
The main problem is not China being the focus. The virus needs to be investigated for public health reason, If it did in fact come from a bat or from a wet market or even a lab, in Wuhan or other parts of China. so be it. It will benefit us all and it does not mean China is maliciously at fault. But what if it came from somewhere else outside China from an unknown sources. Will the US specifically also allow itself to be investigated as a possible original source of the virus? I suspect the US will not allow this to happen specially under current administration as it will make them really look stupid.
The main problem is an attempt to corrupt the WHO to serve strategic and political goals of the US and their co-conspirators. US is bitterly resentful with their own incompetence and they have already started to make every effort to unfairly manipulate the investigation for their purpose. This is the risk and should not be allowed to happen.
Yes, I agree with both, the need to actually find out the origin and not let the gang do a cover up. However, my concerns still stands, the reason the US demonised the WHO was to get it to do what US wants...
Let say we find out it was natural, the US will then have the impetus to restructure the personnel in the WHO by simply claiming the WHO has been bought, I mean they are already doing just that. If the WHO find it came from the US they can say the same thing and demand their own "impartial and independent" investigation. So I am just concerned that no matter the case, we end up at the same position and a lot of people at this point at just trying confirm their own bias.
You are correct that the risk of WHO corruption exist. It should not be allowed to happen.
Yet if it does, then I expect China to withhold cooperation if WHO is no longer fulfilling its mission to serve public health concerns and acting as political tools.
To be fair, The investigation in China and US has to happen simultaneously in parallel.
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Come on guys. The whole thing was a sham from the beginning. From when Trump trying to deflect his incompetence of the whole thing onto China. Trying to blame China via the WHO. but the WHO won't play ball. Then Trump cut off funding. (A classic case of we funded you so we expect you to do our biddings)! You can't get clearer than that. It shows the USA funding to any world organisation has a darker motive than the humanitarian one that they portrait!
Any case, I think we, certainly the members and the educated ones, all knew that. No surprises here. BUT what is so annoying and surprising is how willing the other members of the famous five are putting themselves out to carry favour for the one!
We have seen New Zealand trying their best doing their bit with Taiwan into observation role in WHO. And now the desperation move by Australia on this "Wuhan virus" saga. It has now gone south, literally. So through their sky media, they are trying to make out the "investigation" is still going ahead and with the "agreement of the world". And China is not "objecting"!
When clearly this is not the same investigation they so publicly demanded the first place. And after having suffered China's economic sanctions that the USA has taken advantage off! They are desperately trying to spin this as a victory. You can't make this up!
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That's so true. Already they have prejudged China with the banner "Covid-19: China's deceit and lies"
I sense a lot of evil intentions towards China rather than "just calling for an independent investigation". I totally understand why China retaliated the way they did and I wouldn't be one bit surprised if more is coming.
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At the beginning, Trump believed or hoped that Covid-19 would crush China.
When he realized that he had failed to protect his own country or that the United States could be protected much less against a pandemic than other countries, he invented the question of guilt.
During a pandemic, you don't ask about guilt, you help each other!
When he realized that he had failed to protect his own country or that the United States could be protected much less against a pandemic than other countries, he invented the question of guilt.
During a pandemic, you don't ask about guilt, you help each other!
This is a fine example of Australians bending over backwards not to offend USA. Remember this? Is a classic on how to lick ass.