Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

supercat

Major
With regard to the theory that the SARS-CoV-2 is a lab leak from the Wuhan P4 virology lab, the central premise of this assumption is that the P4 lab is very close to the Wuhan wet market. The infected lab personnel would go to the market and allow the virus to be spread. However, ever since the beginning, as early as late January and early Feb, scientists have concluded that the outbreak did not actually start at the wet market. Moreover, many geneticists and epidemiologists have concluded that multiple cities and provinces throughout China, including Guangzhou, Shenzhen, Shanghai and Chongqing, have been identified to be originating places. They've identified multiple strains coming from various Chinese cities simultaneously to Wuhan. The Wuhan wet market was simply one of the places where the virus took root and exploded... If the source of the virus was never near the wet market, then the whole premise of the P4 lab leak is gone.

In order for the virus to leak from the Wuhan lab, it had to be studied or in storage there. But there is zero evidence for this. If Chinese researchers had collected such a novel virus, there would have been chatter in the international science community, which would have been in turn collected by foreign Intel services. As for the "central premise" that the Wuhan lab is close to the wet market while the bats are 1,000 km away, well, there is a secondary host, the bats do not have to be near the wet market. The secondary host can be anything, such as ferrets, pigs, cats, except mice and rats. The bats that carry SARS-CoV do not live close to Wuhan either, yet SARS-CoV was isolated from wild palm civets near Wuhan in 2005 (line 250 in the following paper):
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Situation in the U.S. on 5/6:
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Situation in China on 5/6, excluding HK, Macau, and TW:
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It’s sobering to think that it won’t be long before American deaths from COVID19 surpass total Chinese confirmed infected cases. Expect the propaganda and rhetoric to intensify as we near that grim milestone.

Yes. Expect the propaganda and rhetoric to intensify.

But also, please be reminded to be vigilant against abuse and intimidation. Also plan early for any potential fallout in post-pandemic world.
Some highlighted excerpts from recent FED study below.

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-The report’s findings also raise questions around the potential political fallout from the current pandemic. Blickle noted that it was important for the social consequences of past pandemics to be studied as the effects of Covid-19 become increasingly pronounced.

-Reports of xenophobia toward people of Asian descent have been on the rise, mirroring the pattern outlined in Blickle’s research.
More than 30% of Americans have witnessed someone blaming Asian people for the coronavirus pandemic, according to NBC News, while a surge in attacks on Asian students has reportedly occurred across Europe, North America and Australia.

-Research from British thinktank the Royal United Services Institute has warned that far-right groups and individuals are exploiting the Covid-19 crisis by “promoting disinformation and conspiracy theories to enhance their anti-immigrant or anti-government agendas and attract a new range of followers.”

- Speaking to CNBC’s “Squawk Box Europe” in April, Tina Fordham, head of global political strategy at Avonhurst, said she was concerned that the pandemic could see a fresh emergence of support for extreme nationalist ideologies in Europe.

- “The risk here is really a return to populism, which a few years ago was something we were all very concerned about,” she said. “And that focus on a national self-interest is going to pave the way for the return of the (Matteo) Salvinis and others who are waiting in the wings for this.”
 

Gatekeeper

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Beautifully timed, succinct, and eloquent.
But are American capable of comprehension.


At the risk of being creepy (I think you guys know I think she is a great spokesperson for China, unlike some of the ones, and God there's been a few at the white house in the last three years alone). Well here's another clip of her in reply to Pompeo's and Trump's enormous proof of covid 19 come from China's lab in Wuhan.

The clip is about 4 minutes long, (and I dont know how to trim it down) but actually it is only the first 10 seconds when she spoke in excellent English. I know there are well educated and must be able to speak another language, but I was how fluent she spoke and challenge USA to provide prove.

 
Coronavirus: US death toll would have been halved had it acted 4 days sooner, study says
  • Growth rate for new infections, fatalities slowed dramatically after introduction of self-isolation measures and wearing of face masks, American researchers say
  • Had Washington acted even a month after Beijing shut down Wuhan, human cost would have been a fraction of what it is today, they say

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if interested, I just repeat Mar 8, 2020
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so the US more than doubled since Yesterday at 6:50 PM


by the way four-hundred plus was the number in Wuhan area when it was quarantined

(and won't repeat my rants)
 

Rettam Stacf

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American vaccine maker Moderna moving to Phase 2 trial.
  • The Food and Drug Administration has approved Moderna’s coronavirus vaccine candidate for phase 2 trial, the company announced Thursday.
  • The company said it will begin the next round of trials with 600 participants shortly and is finalizing plans for a phase 3 trial as early as this summer.
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Hendrik_2000

Lieutenant General
Why it is easier said than done
The mystery of U.S. 'medical decoupling'
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•May 6, 2020

Calls for reducing dependency on China for medicines and supplies have grown louder since COVID-19 broke out on U.S. soil. To some American leaders, the disruption in the global supply chain became an explanation for the danger of globalization. In the latest episode of Data Speaks, CGTN breaks down this particular thinking and explore its validity.
 
Why it is easier said than done
The mystery of U.S. 'medical decoupling'
4,262 views
•May 6, 2020

Calls for reducing dependency on China for medicines and supplies have grown louder since COVID-19 broke out on U.S. soil. To some American leaders, the disruption in the global supply chain became an explanation for the danger of globalization. In the latest episode of Data Speaks, CGTN breaks down this particular thinking and explore its validity.

Why it's easier said than done is because enough of the US powers that be are too greedy, self-absorbed, and disdainful of others to behave in less rent seeking ways about the situation and actually provide utility by investing in (forget about looking out for the common good of) their own country and countrymen.
 
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