Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

[shanlung]

Sorry to hear that. So should you be doing this? I'm not trying to tell you how to live your life. But just a friendly advise. Please get off till everything is ok.

Difficult to get off.
I used to read about 2 or 3 books/novels in a week. And watched a couple of movies as well.

Since early March, my interests in books novels and movies took a deep deep dive to zero.
They seemed so irrelevant and humdrum compared with real life happenings all about us.

But I still play a lot of chess, even if much less than before.

 

[Rettam Stacf]

This is interesting - The Covid-19 virus which has been ravaging France may not have originated in China, according to a study published by virologists at the Pasteur Institute in Paris. The French strain may have been circulating locally and unrecognised before the global outbreak accelerated.

I first saw this from South China Morning Post yesterday and is searching for collaboration by Western media before putting the information here.

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And now researchers from Japan's National Institute of Infectious Diseases (NIID) published a research finding that the second wave of coronavirus infection in Japan came mostly from Europe and the U.S., and has achieved a much wider spread.

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This is a Japan's Asahi Shimbun news report of the research finding.

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This is the paper dated 2020 April 27 by NIID with a diagram linking major infection clusters in Japan to the source(s) by genetic comparison between 562 Japanese diagnosed with Covid-19 and 4511 patients from around the world.

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[manqiangrexue]

At this point, China just need to do what it actually needs to do. Its reputation at this point is pretty shot alread unlss China willing to compensate any country with virus death as a gesture of good will. Is China willing to do that? No. Showing the world thing is completely unnecessary because others don't really care phase 1.

It thinks it acting as a responsible stake holder doing that but honoring something that no one really care at this point make it looks like a wimp trying to buy brownie point. Weak stuff.

It is indeed doing everything that it needs to do but China's reputation has grown stronger as a powerful and responsible nation that can handle crises better than any other large country. No countries are asking China for compensation, only radical individuals, which you seem to focus on. Even American Republicans don't know what they're asking for but have admitted that they're just trying to blame China for election purposes. America may concoct some accusation and make a big deal out of it for a show before the November polls but other nations will only find this funny and desperate.

Saying, "I can still hold a contract; can you?" is a wimp move? What's the proper way to behave? Yell at the media, blame everyone else, cancel treaties randomly? LOL The whole problem that pains the West is that there is far too little wimp and weakness in China.

 

[shanlung]

Very very very long article.
But well written and extremely important to read even if you cannot digest it fully.
The many faces of a very complex and yet simple organism.

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[Canuck place]

At this point, China just need to do what it actually needs to do. Its reputation at this point is pretty shot alread unlss China willing to compensate any country with virus death as a gesture of good will. Is China willing to do that? No. Showing the world thing is completely unnecessary because others don't really care phase 1.

It thinks it acting as a responsible stake holder doing that but honoring something that no one really care at this point make it looks like a wimp trying to buy brownie point. Weak stuff.

I would agree with your statement. It's obvious the US doesn't care about playing by rules or previous agreements. No matter how much China bends over backwards to save the deal, the US will make some excuse to break it. They did it to Russia for decades. Their goal is total collapse of their competitors and nothing short of that will suffice.

China will never offer any compensation to countries because this is a natural disaster. US never compensated for Iraq or Vietnam or Honduras or iran embargo or Cuba embargo H1N1 or balkens war or Syria or libya etc. Even if hypothetically (and this is a big IF), China does compensate countries to get good wil, the US and western media will find someway to put a negative spin onto it, maybe complaining that countries didn't get enough compensation etc.

It is apparent that the phase 1 deal is likey the lowest hanging fruit that the US to do as retribution but their consumers would suffer especially if their economy is being badly hit by this virus. By the looks of it in Michigan They are opening too early, and this could worsen their crisis.

 

[manqiangrexue]

I would agree with your statement. It's obvious the US doesn't care about playing by rules or previous agreements. No matter how much China bends over backwards to save the deal, the US will make some excuse to break it. They did it to Russia for decades. Their goal is total collapse of their competitors and nothing short of that will suffice.

China will never offer any compensation to countries because this is a natural disaster. US never compensated for Iraq or Vietnam or Honduras or iran embargo or Cuba embargo H1N1 or balkens war or Syria or libya etc. Even if hypothetically (and this is a big IF), China does compensate countries to get good wil, the US and western media will find someway to put a negative spin onto it, maybe complaining that countries didn't get enough compensation etc.

It is apparent that the phase 1 deal is likey the lowest hanging fruit that the US to do as retribution but their consumers would suffer especially if their economy is being badly hit by this virus. By the looks of it in Michigan They are opening too early, and this could worsen their crisis.

China would never compensate anyone for good will because compensation is an admission of fault. It's not possible.

And China's not saving any deal either. With America's economy in deep freeze, they can't produce the goods that they said they would to sell to China under phase 1, at least not without depriving their own citizens of them. This is China making the US responsible for the collapse of phase 1 instead of partially shouldering the collapse itself by announcing a withdrawal.

 

[foxmulder_ms]

What I see from both republicans led by Trump and democrats is really a new low when it comes to blaming China. This is no good for the future. For the first time in my life I am really worried this charade can turn into a real war or trigger smt like the great depression thanks do incredibly shortsighted, so called politicians. They will do and say anything to get some more donations/votes without any concern to people even in their own country. Shift the blame... yellow peril.. I cannot believe it.

 

[bajingan]

If anything good that can come from this is that Chinese people who currently or plan to study in the us finally realize that america is no longer the promised land that they dream and cling for, and Chinese parents shouldn't spend their hard earned money to send their kids to a country that is incredibly hostile to them, return to the motherland or go to the EU, Uk or even canada they have the same or even better living standards than the us who don't even have universal health care

 

[Jura The idiot]

I preserved Updated 11:55 PM ET, Wed April 8, 2020 prediction (

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"... the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation at the University of Washington in Seattle ... estimated about 82,000 people will die from coronavirus disease by August. On Wednesday, that estimate was lowered to 60,415."

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Last updated: May 01, 2020, 05:33 GMT

 

[Jura The idiot]

Apr 12, 2020

speaking of vaccines,

"As of 8 April 2020, the global COVID-19 vaccine R&D landscape includes 115 vaccine candidates (Fig. 1), of which 78 are confirmed as active and 37 are unconfirmed (development status cannot be determined from publicly available or proprietary information sources)."

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now this factor:
China’s race for a Covid-19 vaccine hits a hurdle – no outbreak at home

• Various Chinese pharma firms are working on a way to inoculate against the new coronavirus but are struggling to test the potential vaccines under real conditions as the epidemic wanes at home
• Looking overseas is one option but brings its own complications

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if interested