Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

[Rettam Stacf]

American company Moderna announces IND (Investigational New Drug) application submitted to U.S. FDA for Phase 2 study of mRNA Vaccine (mRNA-1273) against Novel Coronavirus. This is the second company after China's CanSino Biologics to move into Phase 2 clinical trial.

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[coolieno99]

Mar 24, 2020
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It was George Webb accused her of Patient 0 , not the China government. What the China government refers to is alleged 5 members of the U.S teams were sent to a Wuhan hospital that came down with an unknown illness. Supposely one of the nurse treating them contracted illness from them. They were flown home on a charter flight. Their conditions remained unknown to this day. The U.S. govt can easily eliminate these rumors if they just release the covid19 anti-body test results.

 

[SteelBird]

The photo speaks itself.

 

[solarz]

The photo speaks itself.

I don't understand?

 

[bajingan]

trump may seeks compensation from China

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Looks like they seriously pursuing this
Assuming China will never agree to pay any damages which is very likely, what do you guys think the us may do? Gingricht the other day on fox news suggesting that the us may putting all of the debt and all of the Chinese assets in escrow so that they will pay

 

[broadsword]

Let him waste his time

 

[SteelBird]

I don't understand?

Large amount of ventilators still in original packing. perhaps you need to find the original video on youtube to hear what that doctor was saying. He speaks English.

 

[supercat]

Well, it turns out that Chinese and American scientists are cooperating on the investigation of the origin of the SARS-CoV-2, despite all the political rhetoric.

US and Chinese researchers team up for hunt into Covid origins
Scientists co-operate on search for Covid-19 origins despite charges Beijing is withholding data

US scientists are working with China to investigate the origin of coronavirus, despite criticism from the Trump administration that Beijing is failing to co-operate with outsiders to stem the disease.

Ian Lipkin, director of the Center for Infection and Immunity at the Mailman School of Public Health at Columbia University, said he was working with a team of Chinese researchers to determine whether coronavirus emerged in other parts of China before it was first discovered in Wuhan in December.

The effort relies on help from the Chinese Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

“The China CDC is interested in learning as much as it can about the origins [of] these types of viruses,” Prof Lipkin, a virologist who worked on the 2003 Sars and 2012 Mers coronavirus outbreaks and advised on the 2011 pandemic film Contagion, told the Financial Times. “We share whatever we learn with the entire scientific community.”

Prof Lipkin, who has developed longstanding relationships with Chinese officials since he helped develop rapid testing for Sars in 2003, visited China earlier this year to discuss responses to Covid-19. He met premier Li Keqiang, and also received an award, his second from China.

Lu Jiahai, a professor at the Public Health School of Sun Yat-sen University in Guangzhou and Prof Lipkin’s research partner in China, told the FT that China CDC had helped him liaise with hospitals and local CDCs across the country. This was to access nationwide blood bank samples taken from pneumonia patients so the group could study whether coronavirus had been present in the population before it was detected in Wuhan.

“We are working across regions and departments to trace the origin of the virus,” he said, adding the study began in early February and may produce results later this year.

Prof Lu said the problem with existing research on coronavirus was that it depended overwhelmingly on cases reported by hospitals, but that some people may have been infected with the virus and later developed antibodies before anyone was aware of the disease.

“A critical part of our work, which we conducted with the help of Chinese CDC, is to test blood samples of pneumonia patients nationwide in December, November or even earlier,” he said. He added that it was “very important” to study earlier infection cases given indications between 30 to 50 per cent of virus carriers do not show symptoms.

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I think that such research will eventually establish that the virus had been circulating in the population for weeks before the cluster of atypical pneumonia was detected in Wuhan. As a result, it's spread to the rest of China, and the rest of the world, is all but unavoidable, no matter how early the Chinese authority started to lock down Wuhan and Hubei once the atypical pneumonia was discovered. This will exonerate China completely from the accusation that the pandemic was caused by their cover-up and delay in action.

Situation for the U.S. on April 27:

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Situation for China on April 27, excluding HK, Macau, and TW:

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[Dolcevita]

Actually, if you dig deeper, you will find lots of contradictory information. We usually drink organic milk so hormones aren't a concern, not that I think it's much of a concern in regular milk anyway.

Obviously if you're coughing, then avoid drinking milk, but in a healthy person, milk is not going to make you sick.

Most of the milk goes to the "babies", as they're still attached to getting a bottle before their nap and before going to bed at night. Normally they get 200 ml each before bed at night, but now that they're not going to daycare, they're getting an extra 200 ml before nap. That's 800 ml every day, or 5.6L a week, just for the two of them. So with 3 bags of 4L milk a week, that leaves 6.4L for the rest of us, 4 adults and 1 seven-year-old, for the entire week. I don't think that's much at all.

The point I was trying to make is with COVID-19. You have to re-evaluate the benefit and risk of milk consumption.

-COVID-19 causes infection and complications such as Pneumonia.
-Pneumonia is an infection in one or both lungs. Bacteria, viruses, and fungi cause it. The infection causes inflammation in the air sacs in your lungs,
- "Milk and dairy products are also pro-inflammatory and mucus producing, which increases risks in respiratory conditions and allergies."
- Given that you are adverse of risk and have not been out for month at a time, it is up to you to re-evaluate your tolerance to the risk of catching COVID-19 and Pneumonia and the possible role of dairy product (Pro-inflammatory and mucus producing) to aggravate the situation. You are young and unlikely to experience severe complications. Not sure though if you have more high risk person in your household. Just saying.

 

[Air Force Brat]

Apparently everyone is baking while staying at home, so much that stores have run out of yeast. So I looked up growing my own yeast, and learned about making a sourdough starter. You just need flour and water, and a quick daily maintenance.

We got some boneless lamb on our last grocery order. With the weather warming up but nowhere to go, it's the perfect time for some lamb-kebabs:

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Look amazing, what time is dinner my friend, I will be right over! oh dang, they wouldn't let me "cross the border!"....