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Mysterious Heart Damage, Not Just Lung Troubles, Befalling COVID-19 Patients
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APRIL 6, 2020


While the focus of the COVID-19 pandemic has been on respiratory problems and securing enough ventilators, doctors on the front lines are grappling with a new medical mystery.
In addition to lung damage, many COVID-19 patients are also developing heart problems — and dying of cardiac arrest.
As more data comes in from China and Italy, as well as Washington state and New York, more cardiac experts are coming to believe the COVID-19 virus can infect the heart muscle. An initial study found cardiac damage in as many as 1 in 5 patients, leading to heart failure and death even among those who show no signs of respiratory distress.

Pneumonia can create secondary infections and organ failures .

Pneumonia decrease oxygen level, that increase the blood pressure, overload the hearth , at the same time decrease the oxygen level of organs, create lot of secondary infections the body can't defeat.


It is an endless downwards spiral, and if due to a miracle a person recover from it then many of the damage stay.

My son had an non-diagnosed pneumonia 10 years ago, 5 doctor failed to diagnose it, after our second visit on the ward they finally did a chest X ray, just to "calm down the overreacting parents ".

The doctor was extremely nervous when came back, said my son needs a life saving surgery, because the pneumonia caused bowel crossing (stoppage of peristaltic movement, and potentially part of his bowel died ).


They started to give antibiotics with the drip, and in eight hours the belly problems get better (no need for surgery ) , but it took good two weeks for my son to recover.

It was due to over-infected flu by bacteria , so antibiotics cured it.

But there is no antibiotics for anyone having pneumonia due to viral infection.

Even a bacterial pneumonia is hard to get rid of , it stay for long time, with antibiotics .
 

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I have always wondered, is there anyone here in this forum that actually lives in China? Can they ( Chinese inside China) access this forum. I always try to seek views from all sides.

Im sure the moderators can look at the IP addresses can get some analytics if they wanted to...

I WeChat my cousin in China he says from where he is this site is blocked but recently even NordVPN and a lot of the VPN are blocked in China, he still managed to connect via TOR after some initial configuring...

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Im sure the moderators can look at the IP addresses can get some analytics if they wanted to...

I WeChat my cousin in China he says from where he is this site is blocked but recently even NordVPN and a lot of the VPN are blocked in China, he still managed to connect via TOR after some initial configuring...

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Must’ve been a relatively recent block. I had no problem accessing sinodefence from China in 2017.
 

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Problem is, giving vaccine without its safety fully proven over a given time, serious complications or defects can emerge later in life or in the next generation. This can condemned people's life forever. Intentionally cutting corners with protections by law is highly irresponsible.The unknown is not worth the risk.
There is always trade-offs. If a pandemic is bad enough, it is possible that the trade-off is worth-while. People talk about a vaccine that will take 18 months to develop. Clearly, this is not to test side effects that will show up later in life, nor to test impact on the reproductive system. What I am suggesting is to test the immediate impact of the vaccine on the healthy, which in most vaccines constitute the bulk of the side effects. If it is significantly less than the death rate of 1%+, we should consider fast tracking it if we are marching toward a direction of herd immunity due to economic pressures. Most of the vaccine side effects are autoimmune in nature. 1% death from a vaccine is highly unlikely. In other vaccines, we are talking at least a couple of order of magnitude smaller.

We should explore all the options on the table. I think this represents the best option if viable.
 
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Rettam Stacf

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just a tidbit (I heard he'd taken his family to a beach):

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Obviously, he is not the only one. Scotland’s chief medical officer, Catherine Calderwood, has quit after facing intense criticism for breaking her own rules to twice visit her second home during the coronavirus outbreak.

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