Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

shanlung

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vesicles said:
A flu season starts as temperature goes down, peaks in the winter, and slowly calms down in the spring. The same trend has been carried out since we started to keep track of these things. That doesn't mean they are all dead in the summer. It's just that they are less active and become sluggish at high temperatures. That means less people get sick. simple as that. Coronaviruses and influenza hate hot weather. That's a medical fact accepted by all medical personnel in the world. Many experiments have consistently demonstrated this fact for many decades. No need to argue about that.

About fever. Typical influenza and Coronaviruses are killed at 50-60oC. Many outside concrete, asphalt and metal surfaces, especially in downtowns with tall builders trapping the hot air, under the sun in the summer get even hotter than that. So in the summer, viruses cannot survive long on those surfaces, a few seconds as opposed to many hours and up to days at low temps <10oC. Our body temperature can never get that high (well, hopefully not that high). 41/42oC would be extremely high for us. Our brain will be literally roasted to a scrambled egg if our body temperature gets higher than 44oC for a while. Viruses are perfectly fine at these temperatures. So the purpose of a fever is never to directly kill the virus. A fever is an immune response. As I have described before, our immune response is a highly energy costly process. We need an energy boost to kickstart the process. A higher body temperature kickstarts the immune response. We need that extra energy to start pumping out immune cells and send them to the site of infection.

About sauna and hot bath. Keep in mind that we are warm blooded. No matter how high the surrounding temperature, our body will try to maintain a constant temperature. That's why you sweat so much in an sauna. Sweating is a cooling mechanism. As the sweat melts on your skin (an endothermic process that absorbs heat), your blood under the skin cools down. Your circulation will take the cooler blood to the entire body to cool you down, thus maintaining your body temperature between 37 and 38oC. You certainly do not hope to get your body temperature too high. Our brain is very fragile and very sensitive to temperature. This is also why many people experience deadly problems when they stay in sauna for too long. Their bodies' cooling mechanism stops working, and their body temperature gets too high and causes high blood pressure, blood clot, organ failure and brain damage. Not a good strategy to fight infections.

Similarly, many maintain a myth that drinking alcohol will warm you up in a cold weather. That's actually a very bad idea. In a cold weather, your skin will first be exposed to the cold temp. Your blood will be cool. In order to protect your internal organs and your brain, which need an ideal temperature of ~37oC to function, your body slows down circulation. So your cold blood under the skin stays there for longer. That's why you feel cold. When you drink alcohol, your circulation picks up. The cold blood under your skin will be sent to your organs and brain. Yes, your limbs will feel better because the warm blood inside your body is now sent to your limbs. At the same time, the cold blood has now reached your organs and brain, cooling them down and causing them to stop working. Bad idea! Yes, you will feel better, but at the cost of damaging your crucial organs.
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I do hope you can accept I find it impossible to write pompously and full of myself and having a large haemorroid irritating me.
I write tongue in cheek and maybe with a foot in my mouth when I wrote of having sauna and steam bath to chuck coviders and folks with flu inside to cure them. After all, when enough other people got this fetish that covid and flu sure to die off in summer when it got warmer than 20C, I should be entitiled to my tongue in cheek beliefs.

Now folks here do not know how hot the hotsprings can be in Taiwan that I loved to soak myself in.
Here is a photo of one that I loved to go to in Wulai in Northern Taiwan.
Check the temperature of 43.4C. There were pools of cooler temperature too.

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You need to be an expert to handle that kind of temperature.
The hottest hotspring I had handled and loved was a natural hotspring in Taroko Gorge set above TienSiang in a cave just above the cold water river. That hot spring was 46C. Very important to check firstly if another person in the hot pool . And secondly if that person still alive. Also very important not to stay too long in those kind of temperature. And there must be a source of cold water. Most preferably, go to hotsprings only in winter or cold air temperature.
 
shanlung

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shanlung said:
Strangely China was hit the hardest .
And from all indications, taking great care for their medical staff.
Yet China was so adamant that ALL MUST WEAR MASKS.

I think countries who are not prepared and do not even have enough masks for their own medical staff that go mealy mouthing about priority for health care to whitewash their own lack of preparations and to continue the pretense that they are the LEADERS
You of course can chose to think otherwise.

And sacrifice yourself for the Greater Good of your country.
Singapore I presume?
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I also found out a very good reason why Singapore was touted as the GOLD standard in covid
control.
Not withstanding the stupidity of things I seen being done in Singapore.
Such as the Peoples Association (a shadow organisation akin to Brown Shirts under Hitler. Chairman of PA is the Prime Minister) throwing a buffet dinner and singsong of 600 after DOSCON was Orange. Then blaming 2 muzik teachers for paying the dinner for 600 and inviting those 600.

Read and amuse yourself why Singapore is GOLD standard in fight against COVID.
Copied from a forum not located in Singapore for obvious reasons.


SINGAPORE GOVERNMENT PAY CHAIRMAN OF WHO COMMITTEE FOR GOOD PUBLICITY

NUH Dale Fisher



In exchange for good publicity, the Singapore government offered the chairman of World Health Organisation’s Global Outbreak and Alert and Response Network (GOARN), Professor Dale Fisher, a S$20,000-a-month director position at the government hospital National University Health (NUH).
The professor’s promotion was given at the same time when the WHO start pouring praises to Singapore government’s policies on the coronavirus outbreak. WHO, already seen as incompetent by the world for failing to take early actions, however did not specify what “good work” the Singapore government did to earn the praise.
Widely criticised as useless, the World Health Organisation (WHO) chief Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said on Tuesday (Mar 16):

“Singapore is a good example of an all-of-government approach – Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong’s regular videos are helping to explain the risks and reassure people.”
Singapore has instead exported numerous cases at the early stages of the global pandemic, and local transmission is out of control. The Singapore government also did not quarantine passengers of the Costa Fortuna, risking the spread to other host countries.

Dale Fisher, a senior consultant at the infectious disease division, was given the promotion in February – shortly after the WHO pour empty praises for the Singapore government.

There are now 187 confirmed cases in Singapore, with over 40 infected locally from unknown links. Dictator Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong yesterday gave a dangerous advice telling the infected to stay at home and not seek hospital treatment, in a bid to lower the stress on government medical service.
 
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President Trump to declare national emergency to speed virus response, sources say
  • Trump is under increasing pressure to act, as governors and mayors nationwide step up actions to mitigate the spread
  • The president said he will hold a news conference at 3pm in Washington
so let's wait and see

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Coronavirus: China’s first confirmed Covid-19 case traced back to November 17
  • Government records suggest first person infected with new disease may have been a Hubei resident aged 55, but ‘patient zero’ has yet to be confirmed
  • Documents seen by the Post could help scientists track the spread of the disease and perhaps determine its source
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