Ya, Shanghai tried that before the lockdown. How well did that go?
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It works for Alpha and Delta but not for Omicron. Both Shenzhen and Beijing have demonstrated that you need a few days of soft lockdown in district level in order to stamp out the virus.
You want to experiment with Covid eradication methods *again*? Like Shanghai did?
That still doesn't justify killing people's pets. Or preventing cancer patients from receiving medical treatments just because their health code is not up to date. Or physically barricading peoples' front doors.
A covid test would only take a few hours to get results in China. If cancer patients wanted to get treatment, then just need to do a test before going to hospitals. Only medical emergencies should be granted exemption.
Pets are not companion in China. Under China law, a pet with infectious disease that can't be quarantine would be killed such rabid or other diseases. Different Chinese cities have different rules when it comes down with how to deal with such situation. Some cities such as Shanghai or Shenzhen have quarantine for pets. Others would allow pets to quarantine at homes if foods could be distributed so pets won't stave to deaths. Some cities don't have resources to do anything of this so killing is the only option. China quarantine law does allow them to do it so it isn't your damn business. Not that I don't agree with the fact that many cities should be more humane but at the same time when millions of people need to be feed. It probably isn't many low tier cities' priorities.
Shanghai didn't barricade apartments or buildings. How did that go? You think people don't break laws and fellow rules. If Shanghai has more restrict policies, then it wouldn't be shut down for 2 months or spread the virus to many other Chinese cities.
Both of my parents are doctors who still participate in surgical operations. Turkey and almost every other country did the same during lockdowns too. Preventing cancer patients from receiving operations until they are COVID-free absolutely makes sense.
- Vast majority of cancer patients can wait for 5-10 days.
- A surgical operation weakens the body. Operating a Covid patient can be very dangerous for the patient, especially if she/he is old.
- A sick patient can easily infect doctors during the operation.
- A sick patient can easily infect other patients in the post-op room who are also in a weakened state.
The first, second and fourth apply to non-surgical procedures too. By treating Covid infected cancer patients you are allowing them to infect non-infected cancer patients and people who treat cancer patients.
本土病例126例 new symptomatic cases (Sichuan 四川84例 and Inner Mongolia 内蒙古7例 and Guangdong 广东5例 and Tibet 西藏9例 and Beijing 北京2例)
本土823例 new asymptomatic cases (Tibet 西藏101例 and Guizhou 贵州302例 and Heilongjiang 黑龙江22例 and Sichuan 四川159例 and Shandong 山东11例 and Liaoning 辽宁8例 and Guangxi 广西55例 and Inner Mongolia 内蒙古10例 and Jiangxi 江西52例 and Xinjiang 新疆25例)
本土823例 new asymptomatic cases (Tibet 西藏101例 and Guizhou 贵州302例 and Heilongjiang 黑龙江22例 and Sichuan 四川159例 and Shandong 山东11例 and Liaoning 辽宁8例 and Guangxi 广西55例 and Inner Mongolia 内蒙古10例 and Jiangxi 江西52例 and Xinjiang 新疆25例)
Many of these practices are also adopted in the US and Europe. But it has become much more flexible, and often on a case-by-case basis, as it should in medicine. The decision is made by both the patients (empowered), and their doctors (often a group of doctors if it’s for oncology). Some treatments, certain cancers cannot wait. For every 1 month delay, the risk of death is increased by around 10%, and its likely much higher if you factor in increased stress, lack of sleep due to anxiety/waiting, etc... all that on the immune system.
For a patient suffering from certain types of cancer, pregnancy emergencies, etc… they shouldn’t be turned away for any reason. It’s literally life or death.
- If you are going to enforce Zero Covid for extended periods, then set up the special facilities needed to treat these people.
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It is funny that you say this as we know Japan just experiences an covid outbreak that forced them to turn away many patients. These Japanese cancer patients or other types of patients were denied cares due to the fact that the hospitals were overwhelmed.
Somehow you care so much about isolated cases of Chinese patients that deny emergency cares but not for countries like Japan that got their hospitals overwhelmed and turned away tens and hundreds of thousands patients that seeking emergency cares including cancer patients.
Which tells that you don't care about Chinese patients but trying to preach against zero covid as bad. But the reality is without zero covid, much more patients with cancer or other diseases would deny cares such as what happened in Japan right now.