Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

[PeregrineFalcon]

Thanks for your suggestion brother, however, we have plenty of stock of Lian Hua Qingwen Jiaonang and there are plenty of them available for purchase on market. Don't worry! Should there be no lockdown, there shouldn't be a problem.

Is yours the original version or the new "improved" version without certain ingredients?

 

[j17wang]

Cant make this up haha
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This is odd, but definitely the US reached herd immunity first.

 

[Quickie]

Today it was reported that the US had over a million new infections in a day. And people are trying to spin how it shows how strong the US is in a pandemic while trying to spin how China's low infections numbers makes it weak...

The current narrative/spin from those same propagandist media is that without the natural immunity from getting the Covid infections itself by avoiding cities lockdown, with Chinese vaccines being less effective and managing the pandemic in "a smart way", China will face the grim prospect of ever being able to open up the country without an even higher cost compared to what those western countries are currently experiencing.

(The Chinese vaccines being less effective part despite the fact that the Omicron pandemic has started in Europe and the U.S. with its availability of "better vaccines" and only a few countries (mostly Asian) where Chinese vaccines play a big part reporting only initial outbreak or only imported cases? )


The question is a higher cost in what ways?

Human cost? The last I check on Hopkins website China has had zero death in the last 28 days.

China's economy? We'll have to see on that count as 2022 has only just started. (Imo, China will probably manage at least as well as the rest of the world and without the human cost.)

 

[Quickie]

@windsclouds2030 thanks for the info bro, I think with my experience IF okay with you guys I posted the stages that I've had gone thru

1) a slight fever
2) severe sore throat infection
3) nasal congestion
4) coughing that forces phlegm out (sign of recovery)

all happening within the last week

My family status report, me, my wife and my eldest daughter is at stage four, my son is on stage one, my auntie is going to stage one leaving my second daughter still unscratched. The infection is like a baton relay , so we know the pattern and learned what to do with it.

Confirmed Covid with the test?

 

[SteelBird]

Is yours the original version or the new "improved" version without certain ingredients?

I've never heard about the improved version, I'm not sure.

 

[ansy1968]

Confirmed Covid with the test?

@Quickie bro mine is negative BUT my eldest daughter is positive , share the same symptoms and same 3rd doses recipient. It is confusing maybe the Swab needle isn't long enough...lol

 

[Tyler]

This is odd, but definitely the US reached herd immunity first.

They think they are changing the pandemic into an endemic.

 

[OppositeDay]

New preprint showing much stronger immunogenicity from an aerosolized CanSino booster shot compared to a third Sinovac shot.

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Meanwhile, Walvax’s mRNA vaccine is still in Phase III trial, but the founder of Abogen Biosciences said during a presentation that the Walvax vaccine saw much smaller decrease in neutralizing antibodies against delta compared to the BNT-Pfizer vaccine.

 

[Phead128]

The current narrative/spin from those same propagandist media is that without the natural immunity from getting the Covid infections itself by avoiding cities lockdown, with Chinese vaccines being less effective and managing the pandemic in "a smart way", China will face the grim prospect of ever being able to open up the country without an even higher cost compared to what those western countries are currently experiencing.

(The Chinese vaccines being less effective part despite the fact that the Omicron pandemic has started in Europe and the U.S. with its availability of "better vaccines" and only a few countries (mostly Asian) where Chinese vaccines play a big part reporting only initial outbreak or only imported cases? )


The question is a higher cost in what ways?

Human cost? The last I check on Hopkins website China has had zero death in the last 28 days.

China's economy? We'll have to see on that count as 2022 has only just started. (Imo, China will probably manage at least as well as the rest of the world and without the human cost.)

I actually graduated from Hopkins with my masters in public health and met the Chinese guy who made the Hopkins dashboard (Ensheng Dong). But RE: Western propaganda....Nobody at Johns Hopkins or in the epidemiology community thinks letting the virus rip through the community is a good idea. Herd immunity via natural infection is a BAD because you can be re-infected by same or another variant, which overwhelms hospitals ICU beds and causes unnecessary deaths. The Western propaganda flies in direct face of science. China can do annual boosters forever to achieve the immunity protection, so these Western media propagandist are insane to suggest China is disadvantaged for actually controlling the virus and not overwhelming hospitals.

 

[Bellum_Romanum]

I actually graduated from Hopkins with my masters in public health and met the Chinese guy who made the Hopkins dashboard (Ensheng Dong). But RE: Western propaganda....Nobody at Johns Hopkins or in the epidemiology community thinks letting the virus rip through the community is a good idea. Herd immunity via natural infection is a BAD because you can be re-infected by same or another variant, which overwhelms hospitals ICU beds and causes unnecessary deaths. The Western propaganda flies in direct face of science. China can do annual boosters forever to achieve the immunity protection, so these Western media propagandist are insane to suggest China is disadvantaged for actually controlling the virus and not overwhelming hospitals.

@Phead128 aren't you doing your PHD? Or have you decided to f it? Lol